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Accused:

HighlanderAttack
Riskier Than You


The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse




Game number(s):

[game]6999998 [/game]

Comments:
Arms race game, Riskier Than You ignores the single remaining red territory belonging to Highlanderattack and turns his attention to LeoLou2. I had looked in on the game periodically and account sat when Leo was busy so knew the game. I had already figured Riskier would have eliminated red, the only obvious move, but they have secret diplomacy going, pretending that EVERYONE knows about the "rules" of "their" game. Cheap

Used to like Highlander for putting on tourneys and defended him when he was an asshole before, but no more. He's just a punk. The points for this game should go to Leo as a lesson to these two.

Angus Khan wrote:Accused:

HighlanderAttack
Riskier Than You


The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse




Game number(s):

Game 6999998

Comments:
Arms race game, Riskier Than You ignores the single remaining red territory belonging to Highlanderattack and turns his attention to LeoLou2. I had looked in on the game periodically and account sat when Leo was busy so knew the game. I had already figured Riskier would have eliminated red, the only obvious move, but they have secret diplomacy going, pretending that EVERYONE knows about the "rules" of "their" game. Cheap

Used to like Highlander for putting on tourneys and defended him when he was an asshole before, but no more. He's just a punk. The points for this game should go to Leo as a lesson to these two.

Fixed report

Angus, you may not agree with their strategy, but you can't say it's a weak argument. One player controlled half the board, the other two were sharing the other half. Even if riskier could have eliminated HA, he probably would have been much weaker than leo, and would have lost. It's the same as on any map in a 3 player game, the second strongest player almost never attacks the third strongest player, nor should they. It is strategy, and never did they say that they communicated outside game chat, nor can you prove that they communicated outside chat.

Riskier Than You is contained and can go no where and is no threat and can be dealt with at any time. Highlander has others to deal with.

Angus Khan all but spammed that game chat.

LOL-Angus evidently does not know how to play multi player Arms Race. Most players who understand the game know that when it is a 2v1 situation where one player (LeoLou2) controls a whole side and is dominating the game, the only way to have a chance is to gang up on that player. It then turns into almost a backstabbing after you finish the one player off between the two who work together.

Both Riskier and I are veteran multi-player arms race games and we understand what needs to be done. That is the strategy of multi-player arms race and it does suck to be the one player that is winning and ends up losing because of being gang banged.

Funny thing is Angus probably cost LeoLou2 the game by leaving a bunch of armies in the Launch when he probably had a chance to take me out.

Both these players should probably stick to other games if they can't handle the strategy of multi player arms race.

Angus should probably also state Angus Kahn when he takes moves for other players. It took me a few minutes to figure out who he really was.

Anyway. Risker and I did nothing illegal. You can even see the notes in game chat where we basically told each other what we needed done. You can also read my explanation in game chat.

Take it easy. Angus and LeoLou2 need to play 1v1 against each other and stay away from multi arms race. Maybe take the time to review a bunch of multi arms race games to see what actually happens when it gets down to two players on one side and one player on the other.

Angus wrote:

Used to like Highlander for putting on tourneys and defended him when he was an asshole before, but no more. He's just a punk. The points for this game should go to Leo as a lesson to these two.

LOL-like I give a crap about what you think or a crap about points. I am always Major anyway. I don't have to worry about points. You need some? Maybe I can donate--lol

I knew it

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I knew it

lol

I know the strategy you're trying to say, but when you were down to ONE TERRITORY with ONE ARMY on it, you were no longer a concern to the game. You and Riskier had a side deal going, and pretending that "everyone" knows it is false. EVERYONE doesn't play that way, nor should they.

Perhaps you should just say "EVERYONE" always attacks the weakest ranked player. Does THAT sound fair?

Riskier should have eliminated you and let the dice fall where they may. He stood a perfectly good chance to win it all, 50-50 at worst.

You must be a politician the way you mealymouth things

Angus Khan wrote:I know the strategy you're trying to say, but when you were down to ONE TERRITORY with ONE ARMY on it, you were no longer a concern to the game. You and Riskier had a side deal going, and pretending that "everyone" knows it is false. EVERYONE doesn't play that way, nor should they.

Perhaps you should just say "EVERYONE" always attacks the weakest ranked player. Does THAT sound fair?

Riskier should have eliminated you and let the dice fall where they may. He stood a perfectly good chance to win it all, 50-50 at worst.

You must be a politician the way you mealymouth things

You are a moron to think it was 50/50--if it was he would have eliminated me in a heartbeat.

You make no sense. leolou was at a 2-1 advantage at the time and the game would have been over. You are just trying to lie your way into something you are not even a part of. You accuse me of cheating because your the type of person who has to try to make something out of nothing. I truly understand it is a waste of time to explain something a clueless person will never get, but I have done so. Once I am cleared of you ridiculous accusations I will just say I told you so. Have a wonderful day.

after the fact ass-covering from your Wall:

if only i had known grey was gonna be awful in that game...i would have finished u when u were down. oh well.

I didn't play more than a move or 2 for Leo, maybe he made mistakes later on, but you two tag-teamed him and didn't say so in chat. That's the "gentleman's rules" on this site and they are there for a reason. I wouldn't have said ANYTHING at all other than game chat except that you were so abusive in both game chat and PM. So shut the f*ck up yourself asshole, see how you like it. You cheated, you're an abusive ass, you try to intimidate your way out of things, won't work with me because you're a punk.

Angus Khan wrote:after the fact ass-covering from your Wall:

if only i had known grey was gonna be awful in that game...i would have finished u when u were down. oh well.

I didn't play more than a move or 2 for Leo, maybe he made mistakes later on, but you two tag-teamed him and didn't say so in chat. That's the "gentleman's rules" on this site and they are there for a reason. I wouldn't have said ANYTHING at all other than game chat except that you were so abusive in both game chat and PM. So shut the f*ck up yourself asshole, see how you like it. You cheated, you're an abusive ass, you try to intimidate your way out of things, won't work with me because you're a punk.

I am feeling all warm and fuzzy now--lol--your funny.

Here is an example of a game that just happened before that one:

Game 7000001

I was ganged by risker and sqsh. She had no chance to win but did it.

Riskier and I dont have to put a message in game chat to know what to do.

We have been in the same situation many times both with each other and against each other.

Angus, it is funny how you think I am so abusive in the game chat and pm's, but you can bring out your vulgar typing skills so eloquently here. You are a clueless hypocrite and it is very laughable.

Plenty of warning in chat in the game you posted:
2010-05-27 11:17:20 - Riskier Than You: well blue u can always try and help me out
2010-05-27 11:17:25 - Riskier Than You: other than that ur in some trouble
2010-05-27 11:26:08 - squishyg: yeah, this is going to hurt
2010-05-27 11:27:31 - squishyg: i helped a little there...

Don't try and pretend you've been all prissy clean language HA, you were a jerk and your language was MUCH worse than mine, you called me a moron etc. I gave you a tiny sample of what you gave me and you're all upset? Maybe you and Riskier have played together so much you don't think you need to say anything, but it was a PRIVATE game, you invited Leo and you ganged him without notice. Not my beef I admit, but you should know better by now. I defended you about your tourneys and I know you wouldn't allow secret diplomacy in them, or didn't use to, who knows now?

How many troops were on HA's one territory?

I think that will help clear the air a bit.

what were the spoils on how many did ha have if somone is down to 1 tert you card them this is a strat was it worth taking 1 region if ha had 3 cards and riskier only had 1. also arms plays totally different to other games if you do not like this kind of play join the loan rangers.

also you admit you were babysitting the game you should not been posting in chat apart from angus for leo

once again the arms board comes into this kind of arguement you should of read up on it all other cases have been cleared.

edit sorry it was nuc spoils was ha on 5 and risker on 4 making him have to double cash poss nucing his own

Angus Khan wrote:Plenty of warning in chat in the game you posted:
2010-05-27 11:17:20 - Riskier Than You: well blue u can always try and help me out
2010-05-27 11:17:25 - Riskier Than You: other than that ur in some trouble
2010-05-27 11:26:08 - squishyg: yeah, this is going to hurt
2010-05-27 11:27:31 - squishyg: i helped a little there...

Don't try and pretend you've been all prissy clean language HA, you were a jerk and your language was MUCH worse than mine, you called me a moron etc. I gave you a tiny sample of what you gave me and you're all upset? Maybe you and Riskier have played together so much you don't think you need to say anything, but it was a PRIVATE game, you invited Leo and you ganged him without notice. Not my beef I admit, but you should know better by now. I defended you about your tourneys and I know you wouldn't allow secret diplomacy in them, or didn't use to, who knows now?

A. You are missing the point again and again--Riskier and I have played many games against each other on multi arms race and know what needs to be done in a 2-1 situation. You just don't get it. Nothing would have to be said for both of us to understand what needs to be done.

B. I don't pretend to have prissy clean language--just pointing out you are just as bad if not worse.

C. Vulgar language makes me laugh no get upset-especially from people like you--see--LOL

D. It was not secret diplomacy. I am sure mods can check pm's and walls and all past information and I completely give them permission to do so. You have no clue what you are talking about and should probably just mind your own business.

E. It was basically a public game as I put it in call-outs--I did not invite anyone.

F. No worries-after this is over we won't be seeing each other anymore (Thank God)--LOL

uhhhhhhhhhhh does Highlander even have time to have secret deploms? i mean the dude has like 1,000's of games going on at 1 time... kinda hard to do such a thing, amazing that he can get all his games done. close this down!!!

common i am wondering why this is still open

ps bust the op for getting involved in chat for a babysitting account and wasting your time

Highlanderattack and Riskierthanyou are cleared of secret diplomacy.

I dont see any evidence to suggest that except for the fact they did something obvious to any person who has played a 3 player game....

lord voldemort wrote:Highlanderattack and Riskierthanyou are cleared of secret diplomacy.

I dont see any evidence to suggest that except for the fact they did something obvious to any person who has played a 3 player game....

Thanks, glad to see that there are good people out there that can see through ridiculously unfair accusations.

Anyone who plays arms race knows that it is unfair at the end when it is down to 2v1. I hate getting ganged up on but I have had it happen to me many times.

Take it easy

lol what about the babysitting account abuse kick his ass for it

if you want to accuse someone of something this thread is not the correct place for it

I can not see any reason why an accusation of cheating would even be brought forward. Anyone who has played Arm's Race knows how critical it is to keep players alive when 2 get separated from 1 especially if the one is the strongest. If Highlander would have been killed it seems like it would have been suicide for RTY and likewise if highlander would have flexed his muscle in any way against RTY, that would have also been suicidial. They understandably needed to work together and no formal statement needs to be made when it is that obvious. Anyhow, with many many games experience on the map, I am of the strongest opinion that HA and RTY should be cleared completely

DB

DBandit70 wrote:I can not see any reason why an accusation of cheating would even be brought forward. Anyone who has played Arm's Race knows how critical it is to keep players alive when 2 get separated from 1 especially if the one is the strongest. If Highlander would have been killed it seems like it would have been suicide for leolou and likewise if highlander would have flexed his muscle in any way against leolou, that would have also been suicidial. They understandably needed to work together and no formal statement needs to be made when it is that obvious. Anyhow, with many many games experience on the map, I am of the strongest opinion that HA and leolou should be cleared completely

DB

lol already done tooo slow

lv i was having a joke have a couple of lvs (loads ov spirits) and chill

im like marmite.