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JM28HEAT [Cleared] KS

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:58 am
by JimmyCourage
Accused:

JM28HEAT




The accused are suspected of:


Other: Leaving undeserved negative feedback



Game number(s):

Game 6750601



Comments: His feedback left history shows that he just leaves negative feedback to be a jerk. I defeated him and he left me 1 star for gameplay as well as a "deadbeat" tag. Please remove this. I know its not a big deal but still.

Re: JM28HEAT

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:13 am
by TheForgivenOne
Ratings won't be removed. And this is kinda sketchy for Ratings Abuse, but we'll see what the Multi Hunters say

Re: JM28HEAT

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:29 am
by eddie2
TheForgivenOne wrote:Ratings won't be removed. And this is kinda sketchy for Ratings Abuse, but we'll see what the Multi Hunters say


i gotta agree with forgiven one on this one only 13 ratings left half good half bad so mods dont have enough to work on.

Re: JM28HEAT

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:36 am
by gundiesalvo
Since he´s only left 13 ratings in the 2 years he´s been playing it´s hard to say. Those last 3 look like Rating Abuse, and you could also add offensive language.

"2010-04-03 23:50:30 - JM28Heat: like I care fag"

Game 6750601
Game 6750526
Game 6750525

If Anything, I´m guessing a warning would be more than enough.

Re: JM28HEAT

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:46 am
by eddie2
gundiesalvo wrote:Since he´s only left 13 ratings in the 2 years he´s been playing it´s hard to say. Those last 3 look like Rating Abuse, and you could also add offensive language.

"2010-04-03 23:50:30 - JM28Heat: like I care fag"

Game 6750601
Game 6750526
Game 6750525

If Anything, I´m guessing a warning would be more than enough.


why a warning look at jimmycourage this is a joke he baits a player to slag him off then complains about a bad rating here is full chat

JM28Heat: f*ck you suck,you didn;t end this yet??? you blow
2010-04-04 05:49:42 - JimmyCourage: i was giving you a chance to earn a bad rating
2010-04-04 05:49:53 - JimmyCourage: you came through

Re: JM28HEAT

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:32 am
by king sam
why just now report this, the game was finished well over a month ago?

This will be investigated for all the other ratings he has left, as far as the rating he left you he gave you poor ratings because he was down to 2 territories and you missed a turn and when asked about it in game chat you replied that you were giving him a chance to earn a bad rating, whatever that means.

His tags can all be explained as well except the Deadbeat tag. Deadbeat tag is for players that miss 3 consecutive turns.. He will be informed of this and the rest of the ratings will be investigated.

If there is not enough evidence to warrant abuse then he will be Cleared. He did not abuse the ratings system with the rating he left you and ratings will not be removed. The best you can do is leave a response like you did and talk to him about removing it. And Foe him.

pending.

KS

Re: JM28HEAT

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:43 pm
by gundiesalvo
eddie2 wrote:
gundiesalvo wrote:Since he´s only left 13 ratings in the 2 years he´s been playing it´s hard to say. Those last 3 look like Rating Abuse, and you could also add offensive language.

"2010-04-03 23:50:30 - JM28Heat: like I care fag"

Game 6750601
Game 6750526
Game 6750525

If Anything, I´m guessing a warning would be more than enough.


why a warning look at jimmycourage this is a joke he baits a player to slag him off then complains about a bad rating here is full chat

JM28Heat: f*ck you suck,you didn;t end this yet??? you blow
2010-04-04 05:49:42 - JimmyCourage: i was giving you a chance to earn a bad rating
2010-04-04 05:49:53 - JimmyCourage: you came through


I was looking more at

"2010-04-03 23:00:49 - eddymush: noce drop for you and nice dice
2010-04-03 23:20:48 - JM28Heat: what Im getting bullshit dice and you getting cards and dice
2010-04-03 23:21:02 - JM28Heat: aomw bullshit
2010-04-03 23:21:42 - eddymush: dude i cant get a set
2010-04-03 23:26:33 - eddymush: that shld be the game
2010-04-03 23:41:55 - JM28Heat: f*ck this f*ck you and f*ck the dice, absolute bullsit
2010-04-03 23:44:28 - eddymush: no need to swear
2010-04-03 23:44:46 - JM28Heat: you blow, you couldn't end this with your bullshit luck????
2010-04-03 23:46:22 - JM28Heat: f*ck you corporal pussy"

or

"2010-04-03 22:59:39 - JM28Heat: fucking bullshit, f*ck you
2010-04-03 23:03:54 - ribedebie: thx"

Both games he lost, and gave all 1 star ratings and "Clueless, Poor Strategy" tags.

In JimmyCourage´s game, I could understand him being upset about Jimmy losing that round, and Jimmy´s answer was definitely not the best one (specially considering he´s making the report :roll: ), but I thought I´d highlight the "like I care fag" part to add up to the other two games.

Re: JM28HEAT [Pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 2:32 am
by eddie2
again you have part quoted him this is the rest of it


2010-04-04 05:46:22 - JM28Heat: f*ck you corporal pussy
2010-04-04 05:46:31 - JM28Heat: lol
2010-04-04 05:46:35 - JM28Heat: gg
2010-04-04 05:46:43 - JM28Heat: you lucky prick
2010-04-04 05:48:41 - eddymush: sorry computer froze and droped wrong


now wrong drop you can rate anyway you want for that. as for what he said in chat he finishes it of with a lol(laugh out) and a gg(good game) so this still dont prove nothing.

as for the second game you cant see what troups were about could he of finished him quicker which would then allow these quotes and since the player involved has not complained then maybe he agrees with it.

Re: JM28HEAT [Pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:50 pm
by gundiesalvo
Well, as I said in my first comment, it´s hard to say with only 13 games to check. As for the selectiveness of my quoting, sure, I focused on the foul language sine I thought that´s what we were focusing on here.

I agree, if the other player makes a wrong drop you could rate his strategy low, but how do you justify a one star in Attitude on those 3. It would seem like he just gave out the all 1-star ratings to those last 3 mostly out of anger, and that is ratings abuse, isn´t it?

Re: JM28HEAT [Pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:02 pm
by king sam
gundiesalvo wrote:Well, as I said in my first comment, it´s hard to say with only 13 games to check. As for the selectiveness of my quoting, sure, I focused on the foul language sine I thought that´s what we were focusing on here.

I agree, if the other player makes a wrong drop you could rate his strategy low, but how do you justify a one star in Attitude on those 3. It would seem like he just gave out the all 1-star ratings to those last 3 mostly out of anger, and that is ratings abuse, isn´t it?


we do not speculate on what is and isn't justifiable for a scale of stars..

there was an obvious disagreement in chat in the game with JimmyCourage and JM28HEAT and JM28HEAT felt it to be strong enough to warrant the rating he left for JimmyCourage. Since there is proof that there was some type of a means for justification for a negative rating then this is not ratings abuse.

The other ratings will be looked into as well.. still pending.

Re: JM28HEAT [Pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:08 pm
by king sam
As I already said the rating for JimmyCourage is a plausible rating with the misuse of the Deadbeat tag.

  • Rating & tags of ChrisBeerens also plausible according to Game 3972036.
  • Rating & tags of thedice is a bit extreme for what little was said but could be plausible.
  • Rating & tags of Joshua Hayden & Don Juaquin are valid as well, you wrongfully accuse someone of cheating you can expect to get a Paranoid & Complainer tag along with a 1 star for Attitude.
  • eddymush prolonged the game just as JimmyCourage did when the game was won and therefor it could be seen that 1 could question their gameplay, fairplay & attitude in that situation.. Did he prolong the game on purpose to drag it out and be a prick or was it accidental? There is a possibility there for JM28 to feel this way.
  • ribedebie was a casualty of JM28 being pissed about other games and the ratings/tags he left for him were undeserved.

So we have the misuse of the "deadbeat" tag once and 1 unfair rating/tag left.. I have sent him a PM to inform him of the use of tags and ratings properly but this is not gross abuse of the ratings system and he is Cleared and Noted for the time being.

KS

Re: JM28HEAT [Pending] KS

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:07 am
by eddie2
king sam wrote:As I already said the rating for JimmyCourage is a plausible rating with the misuse of the Deadbeat tag.

  • Rating & tags of ChrisBeerens also plausible according to Game 3972036.
  • Rating & tags of thedice is a bit extreme for what little was said but could be plausible.
  • Rating & tags of Joshua Hayden & Don Juaquin are valid as well, you wrongfully accuse someone of cheating you can expect to get a Paranoid & Complainer tag along with a 1 star for Attitude.
  • eddymush prolonged the game just as JimmyCourage did when the game was won and therefor it could be seen that 1 could question their gameplay, fairplay & attitude in that situation.. Did he prolong the game on purpose to drag it out and be a prick or was it accidental? There is a possibility there for JM28 to feel this way.
  • ribedebie was a casualty of JM28 being pissed about other games and the ratings/tags he left for him were undeserved.

So we have the misuse of the "deadbeat" tag once and 1 unfair rating/tag left.. I have sent him a PM to inform him of the use of tags and ratings properly but this is not gross abuse of the ratings system and he is Cleared and Noted for the time being.

KS



hi king sam this whole d/beat tag should come into question.what is a deadbeat (somone that is a waste of time)

the way i see it if somone does not play a shot and does not appologise he gonna get the deadbeat tag.
in the ratings page it does not say player must miss 3 consecutive turns before you can rate this.

ps i am not questioning the noted i am just asking why you said d/beat must be somone that misses 3 times.

Re: JM28HEAT [Cleared] KS

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:11 am
by lord voldemort
deadbeat = someone who misses 3 turns and is kicked from the game

Re: JM28HEAT [Cleared] KS

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:36 am
by eddie2
lord voldemort wrote:deadbeat = someone who misses 3 turns and is kicked from the game


this does not awnser the question why does it have to be that. and if you are going say it should not be used you should state it on the ratings page. people have a different opinion of what a deadbeat is. like i said before i see a deadbeat as somone who misses shots on purpose and does not have the manners to appologise for it. like in this case the player state that he missed so he can rate him bad i would of used the deadbeat tag as well like i think others would of.

Re: JM28HEAT [Cleared] KS

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:48 am
by lord voldemort
thats what deadbeating is defined as...simple as that really..

Re: JM28HEAT [Cleared] KS

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:34 pm
by king sam
as lovo said.. that is the definition of deadbeat.. tis why he was informed of the true meaning and not punished for it.