Evil Semp wrote:Please present any more evidence by this time tomorrow.
Sure, there seems to be pretty strong circumstantial evidence to me.
First off, these fellows have had accounts on Conquer Club in the past with almost certainty.
Here were two of the first two games, both quads games on complicated maps:
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=5468355http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=5464684So, the guys clearly have had accounts here before. Their win percentages are astoundingly high too: 89%, 80%, and and 94%. That's crazy high.
That doesn't mean that they're multis - but a first question could be asked: "What was your account before?" 104 games played, 64 games played, and 72 games played on the three players and yet they're playing very advanced, complicated, difficult maps near perfectly. Maybe they had accounts here and closed them before, but the first question is, "What was their previous account?" No players who have played less 100 games or less would win 90% of their games. That's insanely high.
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Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:57 am
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:58 am
That seems incredibly unlikely - two guys joining at literally the exact same time? Who've never played the game before? Even if a friend had referred them to the game, what's the odds they join at literally the exact same time?
The country in profiles is set automatically - you can't hide it. I know because mine's been changing as I traveled from America through to Taiwan, Thailand, Cambodia, Hong Kong, and now China. They were automatically detected as Sweden.
Their play is coordinated near perfectly together. I'm a pretty decent player, and I play with people who are pretty good, majors, captains, and colonels mostly, and we all still need little gaps if one of us makes a mistake. These guys don't - they act near instantly like one mind. This one is more subjective, but it just feels like a multi.
We're not the only people to think so - they've been accused in a number of their games and at least four times on this forum. Conquer Club players are pretty smart, can recognize patterns well - that's actually necessary to play this game. This isn't low ranked players whining - a number of smart people think they're multis. At some point, when there's so much smoke, you start thinking if there's fire.
Finally, they're all non-premium accounts, which makes them disposable. Multis are almost always non-premium accounts.
So here's what I see:
*They've 100% certainly had accounts before. This is because:
--Playing complicated maps perfectly immediately after joining
--Insanely high win percentage
*They joined at literally the exact same time.
*Actions are perfectly coordinated, more so than is normally possible except by the most well-trained and drilled, disciplined clanmates
*All from Sweden
*All non-premium accounts
*Multiple accusations by multiple smart people who have played lots of Conquer Club
Maybe there's an innocent explanation - maybe they had accounts and deleted them all to set some records for win percentage or something. But players with 100 games played don't play perfectly on complicated maps. People with under 70 games played make mistakes, and they're not making mistakes. Everyone's first 100 games are messy, ugly, misclicks, bad fortifications, misdeploys, dropping/attacking on the wrong territory... and they're playing like they're well trained, like they're in the thousands of games played.
It's all circumstantial evidence, but it feels pretty overwhelming to me. At the very least, these aren't their first accounts, so did they close the earlier accounts?
by ljex on Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:47 pm 
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