Conquer Club

Accused:

m2squared

The accused are suspected of:

Other: Proposing secret diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 6735330

I received the following private message from m2squared regarding game 6735330:

cease fire eh

Sent: Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:34 am
From: m2squared
To: Desperado1961
hey blue, green has all of south america and all of north america, do something or he will kill us all. ive been trying to hit him. ill focus on hitting south america and you can hit his north america, get rid of that canada bonus atleast.

[I replied]

Re: cease fire eh

Sent: Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:38 am
by Desperado1961
sorry don't do secret diplomacy (it is against the rules and the spirit of the game) - make the proposal in the open channel






Comments:

screen shot and/or report the pm (the exlamation mark in the message)

PM 7487435

you fucking little tattletell... why didnt you just tell the dude the rules and continue the game? How were you or anyone else in that game hurt? Maybe he did not know he could not do that? Maybe you could have taken the highroad.

You are now added to my foe list little man.

army of nobunaga wrote:you fucking little tattletell... why didnt you just tell the dude the rules and continue the game? How were you or anyone else in that game hurt? Maybe he did not know he could not do that? Maybe you could have taken the highroad.

You are now added to my foe list little man.

HUH. Bad day Army? Defending secret diplomacy? Friend of yours? My money says this isn't his 1st time.

Well I thank you for taking the high road Desperado! m2squared made my FOE list.

you know how many times in my 4000 games someone has done this, and I simply explained the rules?
A lot of people dont read the fucking directions before they assemble.\
I think the high road would be to fix something yourself, before you hightale it to mom and dad. If you cannot fix it yourself, like a grown up... then yeah the guy knows and he is cheating.

I hate cheats, and wimps I guess.

army of nobunaga wrote:you know how many times in my 4000 games someone has done this, and I simply explained the rules?
A lot of people dont read the fucking directions before they assemble.\
I think the high road would be to fix something yourself, before you hightale it to mom and dad. If you cannot fix it yourself, like a grown up... then yeah the guy knows and he is cheating.

I hate cheats, and wimps I guess.

The kid's been here for 6 months. If he can't click on the little tab that says rules and read the TWO rules we have here and follow them, then I don't want him here.

I will not lie to you. I was into my 700th game or so when I messaged someone for a pact. They politely told me it was against the rules. I was confused because I thought I read somewhere that diplomacy was allowed. After that I never did it again. Now I actually dont do diplomacy of any kind.

Im an asshole, pessimist, and in general have no faith in the human animal. But I do believe in the high road and taking an honorable approach to matters.

Ignorance is not an excuse in the eyes of the law. An action is either wrong or right. If his action was not right, then it must be wrong. Wrong actions have consequences. This is the way the system of law works. It's that simple.

theherkman wrote:Ignorance is not an excuse in the eyes of the law. An action is either wrong or right. If his action was not right, then it must be wrong. Wrong actions have consequences. This is the way the system of law works. It's that simple.

This is a game asswhipe. He didnt commit murder. "Eyes of the Law??" Are you forgeting that 100% of everyone here is just here to have a good time? Ill say it the last time. Technically did he mess up, yes. Should you even care? Well thats up to you, a lot of you take the low road and have no idea what personal honor is.


The guy will get thumped; he broke the rules... IT is dumb and petty... And Im glad I jumped in the thread, because now I have a lot larger foe list. I hate wimps.

army of nobunaga wrote:

theherkman wrote:Ignorance is not an excuse in the eyes of the law. An action is either wrong or right. If his action was not right, then it must be wrong. Wrong actions have consequences. This is the way the system of law works. It's that simple.

This is a game asswhipe. He didnt commit murder. "Eyes of the Law??" Are you forgeting that 100% of everyone here is just here to have a good time? Ill say it the last time. Technically did he mess up, yes. Should you even care? Well thats up to you, a lot of you take the low road and have no idea what personal honor is.


The guy will get thumped; he broke the rules... IT is dumb and petty... And Im glad I jumped in the thread, because now I have a lot larger foe list. I hate wimps.

LMAO! Low road? You equate CHEATING with personal honor? WTF army.

jefjef wrote:

army of nobunaga wrote:

theherkman wrote:Ignorance is not an excuse in the eyes of the law. An action is either wrong or right. If his action was not right, then it must be wrong. Wrong actions have consequences. This is the way the system of law works. It's that simple.

This is a game asswhipe. He didnt commit murder. "Eyes of the Law??" Are you forgeting that 100% of everyone here is just here to have a good time? Ill say it the last time. Technically did he mess up, yes. Should you even care? Well thats up to you, a lot of you take the low road and have no idea what personal honor is.


The guy will get thumped; he broke the rules... IT is dumb and petty... And Im glad I jumped in the thread, because now I have a lot larger foe list. I hate wimps.

LMAO! Low road? You equate CHEATING with personal honor? WTF army.

No I equate everything with life. Some times you can take care of stuff like a man.. Or try to. And the other way is to run to papa.

Its a small thing to you, and actually to me too. But I guess where Im different than practically everyone in this thread- is that I feel like is below me to run and get some schmuck in trouble till I at least try to tell him the rules. I actually have done this like 5 times. All 5 times they gu was really appreciative.



Anyway.. I guess its not below you people. Whatever.. eat your cheerios and have as good of a life as you can muster. Doesnt matter to me.

I 100% support army on this one.

Desperado1961.....you're a giant d-bag for doing this. Didn't your parents teach you that tattling was wrong? Seriously....all you had to do was ignore the message or do what army said and write him a stern pm.

Instead, you're so righteous and do-goody that you felt you had to go out of your way to be a pain in the @#!.

I second Army and have now foed Desperado1961.

And jefjef......If anything positive ever came out of your mouth I would donate my kidneys to unfortunate orphans or something hrperbolic of that sort. YOu're the biggest negative nancy on this site (and after the comments I read here....not too bright either.

As for Jefjef, my burning hatred for you prevents me from putting you on my foe list. I hope to meet you in a game and crush you under my heel, so that your eye juices come bubbling through my toes (unnecessarily graphic....perhaps.... but my point...i hope..has gotten across.)

army of nobunaga wrote:

jefjef wrote:

army of nobunaga wrote:

theherkman wrote:Ignorance is not an excuse in the eyes of the law. An action is either wrong or right. If his action was not right, then it must be wrong. Wrong actions have consequences. This is the way the system of law works. It's that simple.

This is a game asswhipe. He didnt commit murder. "Eyes of the Law??" Are you forgeting that 100% of everyone here is just here to have a good time? Ill say it the last time. Technically did he mess up, yes. Should you even care? Well thats up to you, a lot of you take the low road and have no idea what personal honor is.


The guy will get thumped; he broke the rules... IT is dumb and petty... And Im glad I jumped in the thread, because now I have a lot larger foe list. I hate wimps.

LMAO! Low road? You equate CHEATING with personal honor? WTF army.

No I equate everything with life. Some times you can take care of stuff like a man.. Or try to. And the other way is to run to papa.

Its a small thing to you, and actually to me too. But I guess where Im different than practically everyone in this thread- is that I feel like is below me to run and get some schmuck in trouble till I at least try to tell him the rules. I actually have done this like 5 times. All 5 times they gu was really appreciative.



Anyway.. I guess its not below you people. Whatever.. eat your cheerios and have as good of a life as you can muster. Doesnt matter to me.

Well for this not mattering to you ya sure have a strong opinion.

The guy cheated. This guy didn't appreciate it. So he reported. I'm going to bet it isn't this players 1st attempt at secret diplomacy either.

Just so you know so far this young year I have personally contacted 4 people about diplomacy being on their walls. I explained the rules to them and gave them a chance to clean remove it. They all did. I saw a racial slur a couple months back. I contacted the player and he removed it.

The "high road" is not traveled by just you. Different situations calls for different actions.

But to "not care" and come here and berate someone for reporting a CHEAT is not the high road.

Now Tumor of shame. Nice baited flame. I would freely take your points if not for the fact that I foe the likes of you. Save your points 21%er and foe me too.

BYE.

LMAO

army of nobunaga wrote:you fucking little tattletell... why didnt you just tell the dude the rules and continue the game? How were you or anyone else in that game hurt? Maybe he did not know he could not do that? Maybe you could have taken the highroad.

You are now added to my foe list little man.

hmmmm, foe the person that started the thread, guess your adding the accused to your friends list, in the hope you can be the recipient of future pm's from him. Very sneaky. Excellent use of lateral thinking skills.

And jefjef......If anything positive ever came out of your mouth I would donate my kidneys to unfortunate orphans or something hrperbolic of that sort. YOu're the biggest negative nancy on this site (and after the comments I read here....not too bright either.

As for Jefjef, my burning hatred for you prevents me from putting you on my foe list. I hope to meet you in a game and crush you under my heel, so that your eye juices come bubbling through my toes (unnecessarily graphic....perhaps.... but my point...i hope..has gotten across.)[/quote]

Secret Diplomacy is cheating...how people choose to take care of it is their option.

Honey...are you not playing nice with the children again?

I'm sorry Lameboy but might want to get that kidney in for testing (will it pass?) as there are plenty of positive things jefjef does with his mouth. His fingers, however, are a different entity. You hate someone on the internet so much that you want to "crush you under my heel, so that your eye juices come bubbling through my toes"? Wow. You might want to look into professional help....I think Saxitoxin is taking on new clients....he may charge xtra for being on jefjef's foe list though....

MegasWoman wrote:I'm sorry Lameboy but might want to get that kidney in for testing (will it pass?) as there are plenty of positive things jefjef does with his mouth. His fingers, however, are a different entity. You hate someone on the internet so much that you want to "crush you under my heel, so that your eye juices come bubbling through my toes"? Wow. You might want to look into professional help....I think Saxitoxin is taking on new clients....

First off. No my kidneys would not pass and I am not ashamed of that. Second off...thank you for making me lose my lunch with the fingers and mouth comment.

What else....

Oh....by Hyperbolic and 'needlessly graphic' I think that I meant my comments were *gasp* hyperbolic and *surprise* 'needlessly graphic'. Im sorry...no wait Im not. Im actually not sorry or even surprised that someone on the internet took them seriously.

as for Saxitoxin.....Im not sure what you mean. I think what you're going for is for some kind of psychiatric drug in the vein of an anxiety or mood-stabilizing drug which I get from you telling me i needed 'help.' But...Saxitoxin is 'a neurotoxin naturally produced by certain species of marine life.' (thank you wiki). So ....are you telling me that the toxins in blowfish sacks are taking on new clients? Do you want me to eat blowfish? Because I have and theyre good. Or is this your mongoloid way of telling me to kill myself? You could have just said so.....Im always open for comments but if i have to interpret them you may not get what you want.

and jefjef....you telling me how I could never beat you and then foeing me merely confirms your cowardice.....which you can add to your list of faults topped of course by you being an extreme negative nancy. I stick to my belief of your being a stain on humanity.

BTW I thought 'Tumor of Shame' was funny...'Lameboy' though was uninspired. FYI....toss Timur the Lame into google if you enjoy history. I look forward to getting tag teamed by you two the married couple.

The point of mine and I believe Army's comments is that since the dawn of time humanity has condemned traitors, backstabbers, tattletales and the like. Conceptions from Dante's Inferno to the Witness Protection Program attest to the chord that is struck when someone tattles. If there is another way to handle this.....it should be done that way.

To those who wish...please be moronic and read too much into my witness protection comment

yes Im a lateral thinker. true. Ill add you to foe too man... I could give a f*ck less

Timur the Lame wrote:

MegasWoman wrote:I'm sorry Lameboy but might want to get that kidney in for testing (will it pass?) as there are plenty of positive things jefjef does with his mouth. His fingers, however, are a different entity. You hate someone on the internet so much that you want to "crush you under my heel, so that your eye juices come bubbling through my toes"? Wow. You might want to look into professional help....I think Saxitoxin is taking on new clients....

First off. No my kidneys would not pass and I am not ashamed of that. Second off...thank you for making me lose my lunch with the fingers and mouth comment.

What else....

Oh....by Hyperbolic and 'needlessly graphic' I think that I meant my comments were *gasp* hyperbolic and *surprise* 'needlessly graphic'. Im sorry...no wait Im not. Im actually not sorry or even surprised that someone on the internet took them seriously.

as for Saxitoxin.....Im not sure what you mean. I think what you're going for is for some kind of psychiatric drug in the vein of an anxiety or mood-stabilizing drug which I get from you telling me i needed 'help.' But...Saxitoxin is 'a neurotoxin naturally produced by certain species of marine life.' (thank you wiki). So ....are you telling me that the toxins in blowfish sacks are taking on new clients? Do you want me to eat blowfish? Because I have and theyre good. Or is this your mongoloid way of telling me to kill myself? You could have just said so.....Im always open for comments but if i have to interpret them you may not get what you want.

and jefjef....you telling me how I could never beat you and then foeing me merely confirms your cowardice.....which you can add to your list of faults topped of course by you being an extreme negative nancy. I stick to my belief of your being a stain on humanity.

BTW I thought 'Tumor of Shame' was funny...'Lameboy' though was uninspired. FYI....toss Timur the Lame into google if you enjoy history. I look forward to getting tag teamed by you two the married couple.

The point of mine and I believe Army's comments is that since the dawn of time humanity has condemned traitors, backstabbers, tattletales and the like. Conceptions from Dante's Inferno to the Witness Protection Program attest to the chord that is struck when someone tattles. If there is another way to handle this.....it should be done that way.

To those who wish...please be moronic and read too much into my witness protection comment

You lost my interest after the first sentence....but I shall translate it for you...he's TYPING (fingers) not TALKING (mouth)...I hope you understand it now...as for the rest of your rambling (that I didn't bother reading)...some troll should come along and answer it for you soon.....buh bye....

Yeah....you have a serious problem communicating your ideas because nothing you say is clear and its all full of counter meanings.

BTW....you gave yourself away. You did read my post.

"I hope you understand it now."

I didn't mention anything about not understanding your message till the Saxitoxin part.

Please work harder when you craft your messages as of right now you reason at a 3rd grade level.

So lay off the pipe and get back to me.

I look forward to either your or Jefjefs reply.

army of nobunaga wrote:yes Im a lateral thinker. true. Ill add you to foe too man... I could give a f*ck less

Please do kid, and I can provide you a list of other people like myself that don't agree with secret diplomacy so you can foe them as well. Just ask kiddo(fyi you can't foe mods, so your out of luck there) would be more than happy to help.

Army's right, seriously, I laughed when I read this post!
GROW UP Desperado1961!! I also added you to my foe list, I don't play cry-babies.
In life, especially with kids, the tattle-tale often has few friends.

Matthys wrote:Army's right, seriously, I laughed when I read this post!
GROW UP Desperado1961!! I also added you to my foe list, I don't play cry-babies.
In life, especially with kids, the tattle-tale often has few friends.

Incredible what all crawled out of the pile cuz of this complaint.

I'm am going to make a guess that you also use secret diplomacy. It's CHEATING. Just like having more than one account.

FOED. For your avi. For your defense of CHEATING. For your probability of being a multi. For the probability of you practicing secret diplomacy yourself. For your flag.

Rule #2: No secret diplomacy

Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand. Diplomacy includes, but is not limited to: proposing truces, negotiating alliances, and coordinating assaults.

Timur the Lame wrote:
I didn't mention anything about not understanding your message till the Saxitoxin part.
)

SAX ATTACK! LOL, J/K gang! Shaking the sillies out, here!

Hey Timur! *Saxitoxin Waves at Timur!*

I believe they were talking about me, not the neurotoxin whose name I share. ACK, gang! Common mistake!

Annnnywho, regrettably can't take patients in the U.S. (or Germany) due to some legal misunderstandings from the mid-'80's. I spend six months of the year in Tecate, Mexico, however, and can see anyone who needs some help there. Just give me a ring-a-ding-ding in my inbox!

Thanks, gang!
Saxitoxin
Unofficial CC Happiness Ombudsman

Honestly, I didnt mean to open up this can of worms. My foe list has grown now with people I probably will regret foeing later on. I think this is the case:

This was brought up in the forums with proof , right or wrong.

The poor schmuck that sent the email will go down, hopefully not bad.

And we will all forget about this in a week.


I think we can all learn something here... we are all different and that basically you are all wrong, except for me and a couple of others.

peace =D