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DH site abuse Cleared
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:53 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
Accused:
Gen.LeeGettinhedThe accused are suspected of:
Other: Site abuse
Game number(s): Almost every game he has ever played.
http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... inhed&so=DComments: 16-0 against
*netham* who has in his personal info that he is only 11 years old. Invites low ranks into private games with hard selections of maps and game options for the sole purpose of winning their points. Gives them false info in games like "your doing real well" so he can get an easy rematch even though the player ran around attacking neutrals and not hitting his bonus. In the last 100 games he has played, he has played 1 game that was not a private game and lost.
Unwritten Rules
Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts,
systematically "farming" new recruits.
gross abuse of suckering low ranks into playing his tactics of farming.
feel free to add your opinions on why this gross abuse should not be over looked any longer. Time to step up to the plate CC and make an example with this player.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:56 pm
by rutherfoo
About damn time this got addressed again.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:58 pm
by THORNHEART
Pathetic accusation...
while we might disagree with his tactics he is obviously playing within the rules.
1. he plays a variety of low ranks from looks at his pages from cooks up to captian he has played recently.
2. he has play a variety of maps.
what do you reccomend happen he be restricted to inviting only captains and above to his games? Everyone receiving these invites has a choice.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:59 pm
by sdh
rutherfoo wrote:About damn time this got addressed again.
agreed, i hate this sh*t, don't understand why he can't play fair
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:02 pm
by jefjef
Cheap Tactics tag comes to mind. But anyone above a ? is fair game.
Soooo. Do we start with rank segregation? YES Must have a stripe in order to play an officer.
But I don't see what rule was broken unless they apply the unwritten rule and netham, who has won 24% of his games, was not forced to continually play this guy was he?
Heck netham even rated David 5 stars. Must not of been upset about the games.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:11 pm
by karel
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:29 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
THORNHEART wrote:Pathetic accusation...
while we might disagree with his tactics he is obviously playing within the rules.
1. he plays a variety of low ranks from looks at his pages from cooks up to captian he has played recently.
2. he has play a variety of maps.
what do you reccomend happen he be restricted to inviting only captains and above to his games? Everyone receiving these invites has a choice.
I added up the ranks of his opponents from his most previous page of games
opponents rank/total times played against
conqueror= 0
field marshal= 0
general= 0
brigadier= 0
colonel= 1 ( and he lost ) ( he tried farming a game and was caught by this player )
major= 1 ( and he lost ) ( he tried farming a game and was caught by this player )
captain= 1
lieutenant= 2
sergeant 1st class= 7
sergeant= 6
corporal 1st class= 12
corporal= 13
private 1st class= 9
private= 19
cadet= 32
cook= 15
new recruit= 0
118 total players
85% of the players are below a total of 1300 points ( corporal 1st class )( currently )
13% of the players are between a total of 1300-1800 points
2% of the players are over 1800 points ( which he lost half )
do you think an 11 year old understands what is going on ? 16-0 against *netham*
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:36 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
on the last page of his completed games, he is 0-2 against players over a score of 2,000 points.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:38 pm
by karel
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:THORNHEART wrote:Pathetic accusation...
while we might disagree with his tactics he is obviously playing within the rules.
1. he plays a variety of low ranks from looks at his pages from cooks up to captian he has played recently.
2. he has play a variety of maps.
what do you reccomend happen he be restricted to inviting only captains and above to his games? Everyone receiving these invites has a choice.
I added up the ranks of his opponents from his most previous page of games
opponents rank/total times played against
conqueror= 0
field marshal= 0
general= 0
brigadier= 0
colonel= 1 ( and he lost ) ( he tried farming a game and was caught by this player )
major= 1 ( and he lost ) ( he tried farming a game and was caught by this player )
captain= 1
lieutenant= 2
sergeant 1st class= 7
sergeant= 6
corporal 1st class= 12
corporal= 13
private 1st class= 9
private= 19
cadet= 32
cook= 15
new recruit= 0
118 total players
85% of the players are below a total of 1300 points ( corporal 1st class )( currently )
13% of the players are between a total of 1300-1800 points
2% of the players are over 1800 points ( which he lost half )
do you think an 11 year old understands what is going on ? 16-0 against *netham*
Maybe david is 11 also?
But still farming
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:42 pm
by King_Herpes
Don't hate the player my Caucasians, hate the game.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:44 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
davids info on his profile
kickin' azz and takin' names. . .
and being the CC poster/whippin' boy for near-Farming. NEW YEARS PLEDGE: improve rep; play fewer Cooks;
Cook-free since 12/20/09 -- and counting . . .and oh, by the way, on a Coolness scale of 1-10 (10 = best), Apey/Visigoth are a 10, Sackett58, nagerous and James Vazquez are a 9, and CC admin is a 2 (only because I haven't seen a 1 before; BDS and St.Ahr are -1's)
brags about farming and most recent game with a cook is here
Game 6413027. Feb 5th. Not Dec 20th.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:48 pm
by karel
King_Herpes wrote:Don't hate the player my Caucasians, hate the game.
Why you farm also,but not as bad....all you damn high rankers farm....so sad
take the fun out of the game you think?
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:51 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
karel wrote:King_Herpes wrote:Don't hate the player my Caucasians, hate the game.
Why you farm also,but not as bad....all you damn high rankers farm....so sad
take the fun out of the game you think?
please stay focused on
Gen.LeeGettinhed
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:52 pm
by King_Herpes
He doesn't get his fun from this game if he's anything like me. There's a whole world out there for that little guy, just open your door and take a step outside!
I'm assuming he just understands the game and what it takes to climb the scoreboard the fastest. Nothing wrong with that, especially since he plays within the rules boundaries.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:55 pm
by THORNHEART
so you posted a list of stats and i surely hope you know that he isnt farming not when he plays mostly players private - corporal rank.
this is almost spurious...
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:56 pm
by nagerous
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:davids info on his profile
kickin' azz and takin' names. . .
and being the CC poster/whippin' boy for near-Farming. NEW YEARS PLEDGE: improve rep; play fewer Cooks;
Cook-free since 12/20/09 -- and counting . . .and oh, by the way, on a Coolness scale of 1-10 (10 = best), Apey/Visigoth are a 10, Sackett58, nagerous and James Vazquez are a 9, and CC admin is a 2 (only because I haven't seen a 1 before; BDS and St.Ahr are -1's)
brags about farming and most recent game with a cook is here
Game 6413027. Feb 5th. Not Dec 20th.
He is not bragging here, he is saying he is the whipping boy i.e he takes a lot of flak, a minor point but I see no bragging here.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:59 pm
by THORNHEART
he has already been posted against two times....
anyways this is just ANOTHER one of those threads thats a personal things between ranked up players and has nothing to do with caring about the poor low rankers.
these players have issues with each other and then make complaints
C&A should be reserved for actualy complaints...not wussie crybabies who make an accusation everytime they lose or a place where players take their personal issues with other players
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:05 pm
by nagerous
THORNHEART wrote:he has already been posted against two times....
anyways this is just ANOTHER one of those threads thats a personal things between ranked up players and has nothing to do with caring about the poor low rankers.
these players have issues with each other and then make complaints
C&A should be reserved for actualy complaints...not wussie crybabies who make an accusation everytime they lose or a place where players take their personal issues with other players
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:51 pm
by nemrehs1
Well, Gen.LeeGettinhed reported me (and Pixar) for Secret Diplomacy, as we jokingly put false info in Live Chat, which we got a warning for being on the edge of Secret Diplomacy, so if we got a warning for being on the edge of SD, shouldn't he at least get a warning for being on the edge of farming?
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:03 pm
by jefjef
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:THORNHEART wrote:Pathetic accusation...
while we might disagree with his tactics he is obviously playing within the rules.
1. he plays a variety of low ranks from looks at his pages from cooks up to captian he has played recently.
2. he has play a variety of maps.
what do you reccomend happen he be restricted to inviting only captains and above to his games? Everyone receiving these invites has a choice.
do you think an 11 year old understands what is going on ? 16-0 against *netham*
Well colton24 shows he's 21. I show I'm 98. ronc I think is 6. I wouldn't put too much emphasize on profile ages.
But anyway netham rated David 5 stars. Must not of hated playing him.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:12 pm
by rutherfoo
jefjef wrote:But anyway netham rated David 5 stars. Must not of hated playing him.
You mean "must not've hated" as in "must not have hated"
There's no such thing as "must not of"
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:15 pm
by THORNHEART
nemrehs1 wrote:Well, Gen.LeeGettinhed reported me (and Pixar) for Secret Diplomacy, as we jokingly put false info in Live Chat, which we got a warning for being on the edge of Secret Diplomacy, so if we got a warning for being on the edge of SD, shouldn't he at least get a warning for being on the edge of farming?
he isnt pretending to break the rules.
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:24 pm
by jefjef
The 16 games that are being specifically cited are different maps with different settings.
Why does this report seem spurious and of a personal nature?
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:35 pm
by tdans
this report is such a embarrassment.... He is breaking no rules... What exactly is JRs point here???
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed
Posted:
Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:59 am
by Snowgun
jefjef wrote:Cheap Tactics tag comes to mind. But anyone above a ? is fair game.
Soooo. Do we start with rank segregation? YES Must have a stripe in order to play an officer.
But I don't see what rule was broken unless they apply the unwritten rule and netham, who has won 24% of his games, was not forced to continually play this guy was he?
Heck netham even rated David 5 stars. Must not of been upset about the games.
efjef is right. This is a nice microcosm of how life/government works.
If you make a rule, someone will find a loophole/play around the rule. ALWAYS.
CC started with the no ? farming rule. Well, DH is playing around the rule. If you institute other rules, then people will play around those. Unless the rules change, there is nothing to see here.
We can make a "no farming 11 year olds" rule, or on and on, but then things get ridiculous. At least he is moving up from cooks...