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R77BZ&veekhan [Noted]

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:50 pm
by THORNHEART
Accused:

R77BZ
veekhan




The accused are suspected of:


Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Game Throwing



Game number(s):

Game 6449797




Comments:This seems pretty obvious. I dont understand how they can do something like this and think we will not catch on.I believe some form of secret diplomacy was going on or that
R77BZ intentionally threw the game.

2010-02-11 22:58:00 - R77BZ missed a turn
2010-02-11 23:05:24 - R77BZ missed a turn

He misses first two turns. veekhan takes a bonus. While me and pridekiller struggle with dice. Thrid turn he shows up and while blue has 3 times the men on the field he attacks me.
2010-02-11 23:14:36 - R77BZ received 3 troops for 3 regions
2010-02-11 23:14:36 - R77BZ received 6 deferred troops for missing 2 rounds
2010-02-11 23:14:43 - R77BZ deployed 3 troops on Grevenmacher
2010-02-11 23:14:46 - R77BZ assaulted Remich from Grevenmacher and conquered it from THORNHEART
2010-02-11 23:14:49 - R77BZ assaulted Bous from Remich and conquered it from THORNHEART
2010-02-11 23:14:58 - R77BZ assaulted Frisange from Bous and conquered it from THORNHEART
2010-02-11 23:15:12 - R77BZ deployed 6 troops on Grevenmacher
2010-02-11 23:15:19 - R77BZ reinforced Remich with 2 troops from Echternach
2010-02-11 23:15:19 - R77BZ ended the turn and got spoils

R77BZ in the turns that follow does everything possible to set me up to be killed by veekhan.
I even went down to 1 on the last territs I had and R77BZ deplys and attacks so that he opens me up to blue and blocks red. He attacks me several times down to 1 guy and then stops doesnt make the kill and attacks his men to red or an obsucer blue territ.

at this point-2010-02-11 23:31:37 - THORNHEART: he has a chance to stop u and he attacks me and red.
2010-02-11 23:31:51 - veekhan: err... :)
2010-02-11 23:32:05 - THORNHEART: green is a total tool and im almost ready to report u guys for dimplomacy
2010-02-11 23:32:11 - R77BZ: yellow. you are the most angry player i have ever played with..
2010-02-11 23:32:23 - pridekiller: wow r blue and green maried or something
2010-02-11 23:32:44 - pridekiller: there really was no reason for that green
2010-02-11 23:33:15 - THORNHEART: green your. A. DOUCHEBAG.

then later
2010-02-11 23:34:22 - THORNHEART: throwing games is an offense
2010-02-11 23:34:39 - pridekiller: there is definatly something going on here
2010-02-11 23:34:47 - THORNHEART: welcome to foe and i will be checking your games for similar behaviour
2010-02-11 23:35:03 - pridekiller: me too.

not once did veekhan express suprise or say for R77BZ to play fair. Instead his actions (comment and deployment) seem to reflect he did not expect to be attacked by R77BZ.

This is their fist game I dont know if the set up a deal to gift each other a few games each for quick points or something or green is intentionally throwing. Either way it would be cheating.

Thanks

Re: R77BZ&veekhan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:29 am
by lord voldemort
More evidence....one game of questionable play is not enough.

Re: R77BZ&veekhan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:55 am
by Fuzzylogic99
* R7 only attacks Veeks once throughout the whole game....and .not until round 5..odd yes??
* Veek does not attck r7 until round 6
* R7 first move is to attack Thorn after mising 2 turns
* In Round 5 Veeks attacks a neutral and r7 attacks a unimportant tert of Veeks.Neither seems
all that interested in breaking each other bonuses
* Round 6 Veeks breaks r7 bonus....instead of trying to get his bonuses back R7 attacks Thorn
and Pride.Once again R7 does not try to break Veeks bonus.Either play would of helped
R7 stay compeditive in the game..instead he does the one thing that would help Veeks win

it smells a bit like a secret alliance or maybe a multi......To many odd plays being made for players of that level....I could b wrong but to me something does not seem right

Re: R77BZ&veekhan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:54 pm
by THORNHEART
I am fairly certain they are not multis because no one buys premi twice just to be a multi.

But based on that R7 never attacks anything important of veek nor does he really ever attack pride but he only attacks me down to 1s and then stops and doesnt eliminate me...seems very odd.

I can't provide more evidence of veek and R7 as this was the first game the have played...mayhaps I can find some of the same happening in R7s other games.

Re: R77BZ&veekhan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:47 pm
by Fuzzylogic99
i agree

I dont know if they in cohoots but its looks pretty obvious that R7 helped Veeks to win
Like I said too many odd things to be coincidence

I m 99 percent sure R7 is guilty of something not all that sure Veeks is....its seems pretty likely
though he is

Re: R77BZ&veekhan

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:44 am
by Snowgun
People have bought premiums for multies before, but these guys have been here a while.

Have you checked out their other games? Is this an isolated incident?

checking...

Only one game together.

One is from Malaysia, the other from US....

The gameplay does look wierd, but I think it's just one isolated incident...That map is kinda twitchy anyway...Bummer game though...

Re: R77BZ&veekhan

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:26 pm
by THORNHEART
yes i know thats what i said in my original post they have no history of games together so it would lead me to think it was just a random throwing by R7...but that fact veek wasnt suprised is werid

Re: R77BZ&veekhan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:13 pm
by king sam
It's the first game they have played together so far. We would need more than 1 game to warrant a block if there is indeed a secret alliance between the accused players. This is Noted for future reference.

KS