Conquer Club

Accused:
Ironwood

The accused is suspected of:
Being Multis
Severe PM Abuse
Other: See below

Game number:
Game 6383469

Comments:
This player has repeatedly posted comments in game chat and on my wall that are abusive and fall under the definition of the following abuse guidelines:

Spam "Spam is posting for the sole intention of being annoying" Example:
"NANO... f*ck YOU... You should just dead beat... You fucking tool... why? I'm going to fucking attack you with everything I have every turn until I'm dead... YOU ARE FUCKED YOU FUCKY ASSHOLE!"
"OH... and you know why he did that? Because I'm making him my dishwashingbitch in another game. You will be destroyed in every game you play.... KARMA BITCH"
"Hey... why don't I call you stinky vagina? You're a little bitch. You suicided me in that singles game. You will be fucked in your ass....by me... and you'll know it you fucking cock sucking bitch"
"Actually, I've had stinky vagina that is better than you.... you really should just go away, because the way I roll, you'll be an LT by May... trust me."

Bigotry "bashing, or wishing violence on any minority group"
The posts on my wall were insulting to, and bigoted against homosexuals. They have since been deleted.

Flaming "posts which insult, belittle, bully, name-call, or otherwise attack another user"
See above for examples.

Trolling Ironwood also took the following actions which I believe come under the definition of Trolling "the intentional attempt to cause chaos". I had invited Ironwood to join some private games to which I had only invited high-ranked players. He gave the password for several games to low ranked players - some of which may be accounts which he himself controls. Here are the games in question:
Game 6395569
Game 6407847
Game 6383475
Game 6383469

I think this action come under the definition of a Major/Severe Infraction. "Those that are more than just annoying, but are intentionally hurtful to a user, group of users, or the community in general." I think he intends to continue this type of abuse judging by his comment in game Game 6383469 "I've had stinky vagina that is better than you.... you really should just go away, because the way I roll, you'll be an LT by May... trust me."

I think the abuse guidelines were intended to reprimand players who "roll" like this. According to the forum rules, trolling "will get you removed from the CC community quicker than almost anything else".

Background:
Apparently he believed that I was retaliating in one game for a loss in another. If you take a look at the distribution of troops in Game 6383469 you will see that the "Sosius" bonus is the only plausible bonus which I could go for in that game. Some of Ironwood's troops were in that bonus. Once he indicated his intention to suicide all his troops against me, my best strategy was to attack in the areas where we had common borders.

The game for which Ironwood believed I was retaliating Game 6383479 which is is a 1 vs. 1 game. I lose almost 50% of my 1 vs. 1 games. If I were to retaliate for every 1 vs. 1 game I lost, I would certainly not be able to maintain my high rank. I did not even realize that the same player was in both games until I read Ironwood's abusive comments.

i really dont see anything happening here.

the game chat is just fine.

you have no proof of racist, or homophobic behavior.

do you have clear evidence of anything that is against cc policy?

I think you have an issue in proving he was the one the one who sent out the password.I dont see that here...You have to also prove that he
is a multi..I think you did not see that either.

I dont honestly see anyting off hand that would make em think dude is a multi...I took a quick looka nd there was really nothing that made me thnk
that.

I dont see him being busted

I am way confused on this claim as well.

1st. You need screenshots to prove the wall posts seeing as they were deleted. I cant very well go punishing someone for something that I have not seen, and the game chat from which you quoted is harsh, disrepectful & crude but it is not above the guidelines. Nor is it bigoted.

The only game that links anything towards Ironwood in this whole claim is this one:
Game 6383479

All the other games you sited are games that involve other players. It would be PM abuse if he was auto-linking games via the inbox tool. But as it is now I don't see that as your claim. I have no proof to go on to say he is taking passwords that you gave to him and handing them out to other players, nor do I know how you would develop that proof.

I will be waiting for any other evidence you might have and be checking with Andy & King A about the handing out password scheme that might or might not be going on in those other games.

But as far as just that game chat, unless there is more, the answer to that is Foe & Rate Accordingly.

2nd. Are you accusing him of being a multi as well, or did you miss that in the claim, if so then what proof do you have that you think warrants you to accuse him of a multi?

King Sam

Whey send passwords when you can invite? Then if he declines your private game, you don't have to worry about someone else joining.

jpcloet wrote:Whey send passwords when you can invite? Then if he declines your private game, you don't have to worry about someone else joining.

that is a good point!

I had invited Ironwood to join some private games to which I had only invited high-ranked players. He gave the password for several games to low ranked players

If you are going to use a big list to pm people, then have them pm you back that they wish to join and which game, and then use the invite function. Based on your evidence, another case of Foe and Move on.

You need screenshots to prove the wall posts seeing as they were deleted.

The comments on the wall were grotesquely bigoted against homosexuals. The comments are deleted from the wall but they are still on your servers. I don't have access to that but the administrator of this site does. This process is not much good if the perpetrator can cover his tracks just by erasing his posts.

I have no proof to go on to say he is taking passwords that you gave to him and handing them out to other players, nor do I know how you would develop that proof.

Just have a look at the records of his PMs to those other players. This is how you discover hidden diplomacy, so use the same process here.

see the problem is that alot of things has bee n deleted so the mods can not tell.I dont think that its still on the server since it has been delted but
I could be wrong/Sorry bud but you dont have a very strong case

i dont want the mods looking through anyones pm's. for you to even ask that is absurd. get the hell out of here man.

you have no case! "have a look at peoples pm's"? are you fucking serious?

and "hidden" diplomacy? it is secret diplomacy, and that is only in regards to games that are going on. if you let someone have a password to games, that is your fault! not his. i have busted my way into tourney games back in the day. that isnt hidden diplomacy.

you are just pissed off cuz some lower ranked players joined some of your precious games, and your precious points might just drop.

foe and move on...

Nanogram get over it.
Why don't you change your password once in awhile ?
As far as Ironwood inviting other to a game...not to sure that breaks any rules.

wow, conquer club is filled with big crybabies

add Nanogram to the list.

"have a look at peoples pm's"? are you fucking serious?

Yes, how else do they discover hidden diplomacy? Your PMs are not private.

Nanogram wrote:

"have a look at peoples pm's"? are you fucking serious?

Yes, how else do they discover hidden diplomacy? Your PMs are not private.

lol

you are just pissed off cuz some lower ranked players joined some of your precious games, and your precious points might just drop

.

Exactly. If rules were broken then the violator should be held accountable. Right?

Why don't you change your password once in awhile ?

I used that password for only one set of games.

As far as Ironwood inviting other to a game...not to sure that breaks any rules.

I think it is considered "trolling" according to the rule book.

Nanogram wrote:

you are just pissed off cuz some lower ranked players joined some of your precious games, and your precious points might just drop

.

Exactly. If rules were broken then the violator should be held accountable. Right?

inviting or passing on a game invite is not causing chaos.

YOU STILL HAVE NOT SHOWN IW BROKE ANY RULES.

by the way get a haircut..u look Fricking ridiculous

LOL, this noob is getting slaughtered in nearly every game he posted.

what's your password i could use some easy points,

sorry but you dont have anything......I know you upset but its prob best to just foe dude and move on...bc like everyone has said
you havent presented any strong proof

i thought pm's meant "private" messages.

are you telling me theyre not supposed to be private?

are you inferring that lack is an absolute jackass for naming them pm's?

did you think the 'p' stood for public? come on man. get out of here.

gannable wrote:LOL, this noob is getting slaughtered in nearly every game he posted.

what's your password i could use some easy points,

i should pm ironwood for the password...

ronc8649 wrote:i thought pm's meant "private" messages.

are you telling me theyre not supposed to be private?

are you inferring that lack is an absolute jackass for naming them pm's?

did you think the 'p' stood for public? come on man. get out of here.

Ron. The doors of many offices are marked 'Private' but it doesn't stop the cleaner going in and sorting out the trash

I'm pretty sure you'll find that if admin need to check PMs that they have both the right and the resources.

Chariot of Fire wrote:

ronc8649 wrote:i thought pm's meant "private" messages.

are you telling me theyre not supposed to be private?

are you inferring that lack is an absolute jackass for naming them pm's?

did you think the 'p' stood for public? come on man. get out of here.

Ron. The doors of many offices are marked 'Private' but it doesn't stop the cleaner going in and sorting out the trash

I'm pretty sure you'll find that if admin need to check PMs that they have both the right and the resources.

i agree, but that is only in cases such as death threats, and VERY serious offenses. not in ones where someone calls someone a name like "fag". at least i hope that OP, and Lack dont dip into our pm's just for shits and giggles.

in a case like this COF, do you really think it is needed to check? this guy is just mad that someone might have got the better of him...

Nanogram wrote:

You need screenshots to prove the wall posts seeing as they were deleted.

The comments on the wall were grotesquely bigoted against homosexuals. The comments are deleted from the wall but they are still on your servers. I don't have access to that but the administrator of this site does. This process is not much good if the perpetrator can cover his tracks just by erasing his posts.

I have no proof to go on to say he is taking passwords that you gave to him and handing them out to other players, nor do I know how you would develop that proof.

Just have a look at the records of his PMs to those other players. This is how you discover hidden diplomacy, so use the same process here.

Just curious, but ru gay Nano?? if not, decrease your sensitivity level (in other words... man up a little), and if so, realize there are a lot of people in the world that are gonna say insensitive things and to try and discipline every one of them is futile. Foe, and thicken up your skin a little. not to mention you have no proof of anything from what i've seen. and as for looking through PM's?? ru kidding? maybe if there was something worth finding...lmao And btw, a lot of people use shit-talking to get into people's heads... hmm, wonder if it worked? lol

in a case like this COF, do you really think it is needed to check? this guy is just mad that someone might have got the better of him...

No it's probably not needed Ron if I'm honest. This thread however did catch my eye because in over two years on the site the most offensive, unnecessary and foul-mouthed PM came from Iron Wood. I was kinda hoping somebody had the goods on him