AAFitz wrote:I saw that thread...That does not mean I have to agree with it....or that it was correct....or that it directly pertains to this thread.
In the 5 rating case, there were many examples where players didnt even show up, and got 5 stars...and that as I recall was a big part of the abuse claim.
You like to throw that back as an argument but you fail to realize that whether you agree with it or not rating only 5 stars is just as much abuse as rating only 1 stars.
And there were many times that people were rated 5 stars in that history of ratings that were bogus. Out of the possible 1104 categories to rate in there were
692 5 stars and nothing else. looking just through 10 of the games on any page that one of the users got 5 stars on would lead you to question if that user was using the system correctly or just rating that way to rate. Rating only this way runs into a lot of problems for the sanctity of the system, skews the overall picture of a player and the player that is rating that way. If you go into a game knowing or having being told that you will receive a 5 star from them then your more likely to leave the same in return, thus unjustly granting an overall grand experience with this player when none existed at all. Same as what went about with propositioning, fishing & bargaining for a good feedback when that was around.
As said around the halls in here its common to see people rate higher then normal, and that's not discouraged nor is it punished unless its obvious abuse like it was in that case and that case alone. Rating only this way is an extreme and if it is looked at and a vast number of those left are questionable
(leaving 5 stars across the board for a player that deadbeated is an example of questionable) then you will be found guilty and be punished according to the rating violation structure.
The same goes for the other extreme, rating only poorly is also an abuse. It skews the system even more so then that of a person that leaves only 5 stars. The Foe function is at your disposal to use if you come across a player that you did not have an enjoyable experience with, as well as Ratings. When you
only use the Ratings system for bad players like you would use for the Foe system then you in turn are skewing the picture of the type of players you play and welcoming a before the fact retaliatory rating on yourself. If your ratings that you leave look like MrJinx's here then you will be reported and your every rating that you left will be scrutinized.
Its fairly obvious this guy like Thornheart only rates or mainly rates the players he has had a bad experience with, and just like Thorny he has several ratings/tags in their that are inappropriate. There in there you just have to look. Several deadbeats that are false, and almost every time he loses to someone who isn't a "deadbeat" he associates them with tags like "Clueless, poor strategy, SD" even when no chat took place to say this was his thought. Seeing as those types of tags are obviously opinionated the thought behind leaving them is that you cant really prove that its not factual. But when you do it for almost everyone then its a hard pill for us to swallow.
MrJinx will be
Warned for Rating Abuse.
Gentlemen & Ladies, i get it,
down with the mods, but seriously you guys with this "lets see who we can report next for ratings abuse to see where the rules really stand" are hurting the true modding that could be going on around here. Every other post lately has been a ratings one, and I refuse to believe that you are really that wrapped around the axle on this matter. I have now wasted 90 minutes backing up my evidence on this guy to conclude what looks like obvious abuse just cause this trendy topic of ratings abuse will get scrutinized to the ends of the earth. In that time I could have easily investigated 2 or 3 cases of a suspected multiple account or secret diplomacy case. So you can continue to report matters like this or you can choose to not be "popular" and take the higher road and let us do the job of protecting all of you from the real cheaters out there.
By all means you come across a cut and dry abuse of ratings then report it. Cut and Dry being:
a user that is using the system for vindictive means
rating inaccurately for a vast majority of other users
utilizing tags that mostly are never appropriate
But if you get a rating that you feel is undeserved try to work it out with the other guy, leave a response about the feedback you received but don't come crying in here, or barking up some other users tree to prove a point or be trendy. Or do and let the real cheaters continue to manipulate the system.
Ratings are Ratings, their someone elses opinion on how you conducted yourself in a game, are they really that big of a deal that we should have more then 2 abuse cases in C&A at any one time? My answer which I would assume is the obvious one is No.
King Sam
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:59 am
