Conquer Club

brann2006




The accused are suspected of:
point dumping



Game number(s):

Game 6333514
Game 6331566
Game 6331554
Game 6333509
Game 6331541

im sure theres more... but heres a sufficient number to get started with.




Comments: Not much of a secret. After spamming the speed games page for the last couple of days, its fairly obvious he wants to go out with a splash for whatever reason.

Well I jumoed in and sat for Aalmeida17 in Game 6331949 dubs speed game. brann did chat up about dumping points but he played every move to win.

When it was just me and blue left brann didn't quite agree with a couple moves i made and was asking me if I was trying to lose it.

But anyway. I/we won. I didn't see brann trying too lose it.

jefjef wrote:Well I jumoed in and sat for Aalmeida17 in Game 6331949 dubs speed game. brann did chat up about dumping points but he played every move to win.

When it was just me and blue left brann didn't quite agree with a couple moves i made and was asking me if I was trying to lose it.

But anyway. I/we won. I didn't see brann trying too lose it.

hes not trying to lose every game at all... but in at least most of the ones i posted, he obviously was. I think hes going for a little plausible deniability, but he made it too obvious in these. Im sure there may be some excuse as to him just joking around, but its obvious the players in those games, notice hes dumping, even before he says he is... and most are annoyed by it.

youll see it if you check the logs.. on the new world one he bombards until he has nothing left. Im sure its a ploy, but he also threw games in the process...no doubt in an attempt to further waste peoples arguing that he didnt.... most wont be fooled

I'm raceing tw's god damnit sucky team.

first one down under 1000p.

I've already dropped 3500p and only got about 600p left.

looking good.

Brann2006 wrote:I'm raceing tw's god damnit sucky team.

first one down under 1000p.

I've already dropped 3500p and only got about 600p left.

looking good.

Based on this admission, I've given him a 24 hour website ban and admins will review.

Night Strike wrote:

Brann2006 wrote:I'm raceing tw's god damnit sucky team.

first one down under 1000p.

I've already dropped 3500p and only got about 600p left.

looking good.

Based on this admission, I've given him a 24 hour website ban and admins will review.

I just joined one of his tourneys that just got filled?

can Lx or someone rescue it?

why people do that?'I mean..point dumping??

Falkomagno wrote:why people do that?'I mean..point dumping??

When your point total gets really high, you find yourself only playing the games you are an 'expert' at. You rarely stray from your comfort zone, and you try to avoid playing singles games with low ranking players, because wins = few points gained, and losses = lots of points lost.

So high rankers end up playing only other high rankers, in the same types of games over and over. of course i am generalizing, and everyone does things differently, but some people get bored playing the same people all the time. But when they play standard games with a mix of players, they sometimes get ganged up on and targeted in the game solely because of their rank.

Neon Peon and Mr. Changsa have made similar arguments that are way better articulated than mine. search for those threads and you will have plenty of answers as to why some players wanna point dump.

Why is it that big of a deal?? I dont really know. I just play to win and have fun doing so.

I would agree brann is ruining games...he suicided on me 2 times to so i had to foe him cause he is jumping in games and point dumping...

6333621
6333484

notice his comments

part 2 of his saga

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=104403&hilit=brann

The stupid moron admitted to it.

Game 6285058

I haven't been this pissed off since Manimal spammed my wall. I can't believe it. This dude started a game and required 4500 points for opponents in a high-points callout. I knew that a lot of people had him foed, but I figured it was just because he had a bad attitude.

But seriously, starting SEVERAL high-points callout games (there were many, overall) where you require that your opponents match your points, and then dumping your rank before the games finish is just unbelievable. This son of a bitch needs to be booted off the site. It is clear that he is a malicious prick, who thrives on the idea ruining other players' experiences.

But here it is, in a nutshell:
2010-01-23 10:54:42 - endar1077: what happened Brann...General to Major in a day???????
2010-01-23 10:55:02 - endar1077: chephren for endar again btw
2010-01-23 13:53:02 - Brann2006: I'm point dumping smartarse

f*ck him.

endar1077 wrote:The stupid moron admitted to it.

Game 6285058

I haven't been this pissed off since Manimal spammed my wall. I can't believe it. This dude started a game and required 4500 points for opponents in a high-points callout. I knew that a lot of people had him foed, but I figured it was just because he had a bad attitude.

But seriously, starting SEVERAL high-points callout games (there were many, overall) where you require that your opponents match your points, and then dumping your rank before the games finish is just unbelievable. This son of a bitch needs to be booted off the site. It is clear that he is a malicious prick, who thrives on the idea ruining other players' experiences.

But here it is, in a nutshell:
2010-01-23 10:54:42 - endar1077: what happened Brann...General to Major in a day???????
2010-01-23 10:55:02 - endar1077: chephren for endar again btw
2010-01-23 13:53:02 - Brann2006: I'm point dumping smartarse

f*ck him.

He is a actually a really nice bloke... i thinkthe dice got to his head and he just ended up losing lots... so he just gave up... it certainly was not a malicious attack towards you and your teamate endar...

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brann wasnt point dumping just was about to lose premium so played as many speed games as possible, most of which were 3 or 4 player sequential games with low ranked players...

you try keeping your rank up playing nothing but sequential speed games on random maps...

brann just used the "i'm point dumping" to save a little face for losing such a high percentage of games over a day...

didn't lose ALL the games, just most of em... which will happen if you join every speed game you possibly can...

i refer back to my "use your brains" quote that i've used in the past...

KraphtOne wrote:brann wasnt point dumping just was about to lose premium so played as many speed games as possible, most of which were 3 or 4 player sequential games with low ranked players...

you try keeping your rank up playing nothing but sequential speed games on random maps...

brann just used the "i'm point dumping" to save a little face for losing such a high percentage of games over a day...

didn't lose ALL the games, just most of em... which will happen if you join every speed game you possibly can...

i refer back to my "use your brains" quote that i've used in the past...

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:part 2 of his saga

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=104403&hilit=brann

oops...missed something. I would like to add...watch all the problem players of this site come and support brann which is a typical response when someone is about to get booted. They seem to work together like a pack of wolves everytime one of them is in the spotlight. Now carry on.

I was playing a 4-way escalating game with him yesterday, standard, yet he assaulted me at every opportunity, at one point ignoring an easy kill on another player for their cards.

KraphtOne wrote:brann wasnt point dumping just was about to lose premium so played as many speed games as possible, most of which were 3 or 4 player sequential games with low ranked players...

you try keeping your rank up playing nothing but sequential speed games on random maps...

brann just used the "i'm point dumping" to save a little face for losing such a high percentage of games over a day...

didn't lose ALL the games, just most of em... which will happen if you join every speed game you possibly can...

i refer back to my "use your brains" quote that i've used in the past...

Maybe you should read the logs... not the chat mind you where he says.. oh, im point dumping...that would be too easy... read the logs, where he is suiciding into neutrals by bombarding them repeatedly... If you think your honorable, respectable partner, who is above reproach, is actually so bad at the game as to think that bombarding every last army on the first turns is actually his unique attempt to win....so be it... I myself respect him enough to know that he is in fact not that bad at the game. If you think he is so be it. Youve played with him more than I have.

Im going to use the phrase "use your eyes". Look at those logs. Its not that hes losing, its that hes suiciding which proves the dumping. I agree, he tried to be sly about it and give some plausible deniability....but he just didnt do a good enough job of that.

I myself have lost just as many points, though maybe not quite as quickly. The difference is, I played to win, and simply couldnt possibly hold points. He suicided repeatedly, to the point where people asked him what he was doing on round 1. But then...maybe he was just tired from playing so many games, and got sloppy and made mistakes, and forgot how to play, and ended one second after starting, and really, really was trying to win...but just got overwhelmed.... Sure this is possible to say, but not possible to think, if you actually do use your brain...

I suppose he wasnt spamming the speed game board either. I bet he truly did want to play 30 5 player speed games at once...or...maybe he accidentally hit the create button, or it got stuck.....again....no way hed ever do anything wrong.

Use your brains. But also use your eyes to look at the games. Otherwise its just fiction.

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote: watch all the--- problem players--- of this site come and support brann which is a typical response when someone is about to get booted. ---They seem to work together like a pack of wolves --- everytime one of them is in the spotlight. Now carry on.

lmao seems like you have an educated and completly unbiased opionion on these players

brann wasn't playing the best he could, think he just flipped at some point, as a result of dice, and/or spending too much site on this website and just wanted to go out with a bang. He'll get punished, but he knows it, and actually seemed to be soliciting for it. So i just think he wants to take a break form CC.

too bad cause he was pretty active in the tournament circuit... currently participating in one of them and would be a shame if it would discontinue.

Once again CC refuses to solve the point dumping problem. How many more players have to do this for it to be addressed?

firth4eva wrote:Once again CC refuses to solve the point dumping problem. How many more players have to do this for it to be addressed?

I think they all ready did - look further up this thread


Postby Night Strike on Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:02 pm

Brann2006 wrote:I'm raceing tw's god damnit sucky team.

first one down under 1000p.

I've already dropped 3500p and only got about 600p left.

looking good.



Based on this admission, I've given him a 24 hour website ban and admins will review.

nippersean wrote:

firth4eva wrote:Once again CC refuses to solve the point dumping problem. How many more players have to do this for it to be addressed?

I think they all ready did - look further up this thread


Postby Night Strike on Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:02 pm

Brann2006 wrote:I'm raceing tw's god damnit sucky team.

first one down under 1000p.

I've already dropped 3500p and only got about 600p left.

looking good.



Based on this admission, I've given him a 24 hour website ban and admins will review.

That's this case in particular, but not the problem of point dumping as a whole.

firth4eva wrote:Once again CC refuses to solve the point dumping problem. How many more players have to do this for it to be addressed?

It isn't a problem that is easily notice, and by the time it gets noticed who knows how many points have been dumped. Unfortunately rules can't be enforced until they are broken.

Do you have a suggestion on how to solve the problem? Are there warning signs? Do you want us to be proactive and stop it before it happens?

brann2006 is currently on VACATION from the website. And we will be looking to see who took advantage of his point dumping.

i think something should be done to adjust the ranking system on the website.

the point totals only prove who are the best at -

1) figuring out a way to manipulate the point system
2) making maintaining their high point totals the only focus of playing on this website.

im sure they're are exceptions but once you get to a certain level of player there isnt much difference other than who decides to devote their time to manipulating the point system

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:part 2 of his saga

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=104403&hilit=brann

Don't see the relevance of this. I see no reason to believe that this was nothing but an unintentional rule violation.