Conquer Club

This is a definite SECRET ALLIANCE maker

Suspect user: marioteeling

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=157000#gmtop

Comments: Pm'ed to me during the game:

02 Jan 2007 02:05---yellow's gettting too strong... want to ally?

Pm'ed to another player (Freakshowkid) during the game:

do you want to call a truce on near east and mediterranean or do i have to attack you?
-marioteeling

the third player in this four-player game (crazeyfool) has left mario neggie feedback for attempting secret alliances. Of course, mario said in the game chat:

i first wanted to ask you before i posted... if you agree then we will announce it... if not... then game goes on as normal

mario is not a newb, surely he knows by now that this excuse is invalid. finally, mario's feedback is rife with problems concerning alliances. he appears to have difficulty grasping CC's simple rules. damn cheater.

Oh, and the best part: his tag line is "Fight for Honor, Fight for Justice"!!
I know that V would be appalled at these shady and unjust tactics.

Nephilim

Ummm... didn't we already establish that if you had agreed to an alliance, we would announce it? so it wasn't a secret alliance... as to the truce with freak, I was asking him on the game chat as well. So neither were secret. I would really appreciate it if you too would withdraw you comments as they are both rude and unfounded. If not, I hope a moderator or admin. will. This is really bothersome for me as I was actually going to buy the premium membership when I saw this... with these comments, I don't really think that I would like to be on this site much longer... I mean, my clan already contacted me, and I don't blame them with these kind of comments. So would you kindly remove them?

By the way... didn't you agree to an alliance? and didn't you end up attacking me? So in effect you broke our alliance without warning... stabbed me in the back you did... but you don't see me leaving you neg. feedback for it... and also... I thought we had a pretty swell game... again, look at the game chat.

anyways, that's my look on it. I hate to sound nagging, but that's honestly what happened, and I have my mind pretty free on that point. Please remove those comments.

-Marioteeling

marioteeling wrote:Ummm... didn't we already establish that if you had agreed to an alliance, we would announce it? so it wasn't a secret alliance...

Some folks think you should ask for your alliances out in the open, in game chat - NOT secretly.

By asking in private you are avoiding the negatives that come with asking openly... and I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't know.

If you must ask for alliances, do it in game chat ONLY, and you'll have less people pissed off at you.

Just my $0.02.

marioteeling wrote:Ummm... didn't we already establish that if you had agreed to an alliance, we would announce it? so it wasn't a secret alliance... as to the truce with freak, I was asking him on the game chat as well. So neither were secret. I would really appreciate it if you too would withdraw you comments as they are both rude and unfounded. If not, I hope a moderator or admin. will. This is really bothersome for me as I was actually going to buy the premium membership when I saw this... with these comments, I don't really think that I would like to be on this site much longer... I mean, my clan already contacted me, and I don't blame them with these kind of comments. So would you kindly remove them?

By the way... didn't you agree to an alliance? and didn't you end up attacking me? So in effect you broke our alliance without warning... stabbed me in the back you did... but you don't see me leaving you neg. feedback for it... and also... I thought we had a pretty swell game... again, look at the game chat.

anyways, that's my look on it. I hate to sound nagging, but that's honestly what happened, and I have my mind pretty free on that point. Please remove those comments.

-Marioteeling

Sorry pal, but i think you've played enough games on this site to know better than this. Offering truces over pm is shady--there is no guarantee that anything will be announced. Maybe some but not all of an agreement would be announced. If you negotiate over pm, the other people in your game never really know what's going on--it violates the spirit of the rule. Plus, the only way to bust someone for secret alliances is to do exactly what I'm doing (rite?). You go around offering alliances secretly, you deserve to get a reputation as an underhanded and sheisty player. I hope you are either: 1) greatly offended and leaving our site permanently; or, 2) deeply repentant and determined to no longer cheat.

Also, read the game chat again. Remember that I never responded to your pm about a truce. Where exactly did I agree to a truce? Hmm, that's what I thought--nowhere. Offing you for your cards was my smartest move, and perfectly honorable as we never had a truce. I didn't break up your bonus on one turn so that you could break up crazeyfool's bonus--that does not equate a truce, especially since I never confirmed your offer.

yours truly

did we create an alliance secretly? no. did i say that if you accepted we would announce it? yes. so i dont see any evidence of cheating. Maybe what I did WAS shady... if so, you're the first to call me on it. I play this game whenever I'm taking a break from studying... however, I am not an expert and I don't spend hours trying to figure out what is polite and what isn't. As to green.... I DID offer him a truce over the chat... so that accusation of a SECRET truce is unfounded... I simply pmed him to get a response to it. Now, please remove the feedback. Thank you.
-marioteeling

marioteeling wrote:did we create an alliance secretly? no. did i say that if you accepted we would announce it? yes. so i dont see any evidence of cheating. Maybe what I did WAS shady... if so, you're the first to call me on it. I play this game whenever I'm taking a break from studying... however, I am not an expert and I don't spend hours trying to figure out what is polite and what isn't. As to green.... I DID offer him a truce over the chat... so that accusation of a SECRET truce is unfounded... I simply pmed him to get a response to it. Now, please remove the feedback. Thank you.
-marioteeling

i'm not the first to call you on it, read your own feedback. you OFFER alliances secretly, you run the risk of ruining your rep. the more we flame on this thread, the more people will be aware of your shady dealings. people need to be warned that you should not be trusted. your feedback remains

regards

think the neg feedback speaks for itself

well... if you guys think that, it can't be helped...

I have a competition in a week so I can't be bothered by this.

-Marioteeling

PM + Alliance offer = CHEATING

Getting an ok first from other player VIA PM before declared in game chat is just a...Gutless wimp-ass...etc...

How so? and I think the issue already resolved itself...

Resolved for me...YOU(marioteeling) added to my ignore list...People here are smart and will add you too...

Don't be surprised if it seems like you have target painted on you...

Rules Quote:
"Any form of collusion between opponents must be announced in the game chat. Secret alliances are hard to prove, but if you suspect one please leave negative feedback to the members in question. Should enough people have the same suspicion, we will take corrective action against the individual(s)."

Can you read you gutless, brainless a-hole?

Sorry Mods...

again... i posted my intentions in the chat. It wasnt secret. And again. I never insulted you. How could you use such foul language, yet carry the lord's name in you sn? Hypocrit

Kill them all and let god sort them is the full name...so keep your crap...Your a CHEATER...so piss off I'm no Holy guy...Idiot...
Let me Guess? You got kicked by a horse in the head when you were 10?...O.K. I guess I'ts natural...

hahaha... wow, you really have no life do you? lol.

This is my last post... I'm probably younger than you, yet am definitely acting more mature. And about the horse... you don't have to tell me what happened to you as a child... it's not like everyone is just like you.

Good your posts suck...you suck...and watch how many play you...Rep is crap...like you...bye...my last post you don't exist in my world...

My Life does not revolve around cheating at a game...you must be a real piece of crap in the real world...Loser

...And the horse was funny (and true)..

LetGodSortThem you are worng...He only asked for a secret alliance, they didnt make one. If he made one that is breaking of second Rule. Still marioteeling you are on my ignore list coz i believe everything should be done in the open. Maybe you will learn from this MISTAKE.

no he wont, cause he WAS in the Rogue State, and we saw this and confronted him about it and he thought we wer back stabbing and crap, so im glad he's gone, and he's on my ignore list as well so that i wont play with him since he's so cheap about how he plays this wonderful game.

I wouold like to add another name to the list of secret alliance lovers: rn4bt

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/profil ... le&u=35902