Conquer Club

OK... to clarify... rebel did have an easy shot at me.

He claims to simply not have seen me in his rush to move...which is possible...

He is also claiming to just be protecting red and trying to get at green on the second wave of the attack.

to be honest... its pretty hard to believe...but its only one game...so for the sake of argument... Ill believe it...
mostly if I dont I have to believe he is lying through his teeth, which I just dont want to do...

So.. not that its my place to say... I suggest this just gets noted... officially or not officially... and that it only matters if more situations like this arise... It is only one game...and if the poor guy just missed his target, so be it.

I also however suggest a close eye on his games with zombie... personally if I were rebel.. id stay away for a while...just to be safe.

rbelgrod

Accused:

zombie73
(who did nothing wrong per se except gain from rbelsgrods complete assassination of his target
I include his name, because I suspect they must know each other after 100 games...but maybe coincidence?)
rbelgrod
xxxxxxx



The accused are suspected of:

rbelgrod, completely threw this game for green with every attack in an assassin game.
No way to know why.



Game number(s):

Game 6244549


Comments: well, the only choice was to believe it was a mistake, or that he was throwing the game.

Its only one game anyways, so its easier to just believe he didn't see me, and by the time he realized, it was too late.

I sincerely regret having to have had posted this.

I also cant also help point out, that it may very well be the first cheating thread, where someone is truly complaining because they were not taken out of the game. I was his target, so if he played it correctly... the game was actually over. My complaint was not that I lost, but that he should have killed me, and won the game himself.

Sorry rebel. Its very obvious this has not been enjoyable for you.

AAFitz wrote:rbelgrod

hes been blocked from players before for such behavior.

and now

Accused:

zombie73 who did nothing wrong per se
rbelgrod
xxxxxxx



The accused are suspected of:

rbelgrod, completely threw this game for green with every attack in an assassin game.



Game number(s):

[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]



Comments: I wouldnt even mention it, but since the two have been in over 100 games together...if he is a friend or something, it had to have been intentional... certainly he as well as everyone else knew red was greens target...and blue continued to serve him up to green.

Maybe there was some reason for this that I am not seeing, but I cant see how it was designed to do anything but throw the game. Very dissapointing to see this behavior from someone who not only should know better, but has been warned, blocked and possibly banned in the past.

Wheres the game number?

seano1996 wrote:Wheres the game number?

its there.

rbel, why do you constantly get yourself involved in these situations? you been banned and stripped at least 2x before in the past. Even if you may be innocent, you will be hard pressed to convince many otherwise. Stick to teams games or I do not know. You would think with so much controversy circling your name over the last year that you would avoid these situations.

Related link

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=103016&p=2335840&hilit=rbelgrod#p233584

Blitzaholic wrote:rbel, why do you constantly get yourself involved in these situations? you been banned and stripped at least 2x before in the past. Even if you may be innocent, you will be hard pressed to convince many otherwise. Stick to teams games or I do not know. You would think with so much controversy circling your name over the last year that you would avoid these situations.

well, he may very well try to play less than 10 speed games at once... especially if they are assassin games I bet from now on.

This one cost him the 120 points, and a few minutes of explaining...

well the game number was Game 6244549and i did not try to take out red, in fuedal , especially fog, i saw yellows castle and i was trying to run north, i saw red had over 19 territs and i took a castle, his. how would i know where or who had who. and you, he was s0 strong. im not doing or going to do anything wrong, and i am being real careful as to who i attack, these things happen . im sorry for what the end was, believe me i want points more than the most and i do not want trouble, had enough

ill reply later, im in alot of speed games, not trying to rush ,

rbelgrod wrote:well the game number was Game 6244549and i did not try to take out red, in fuedal , especially fog, i saw yellows castle and i was trying to run north, i saw red had over 19 territs and i took a castle, his. how would i know where or who had who. and you, he was s0 strong. im not doing or going to do anything wrong, and i am being real careful as to who i attack, these things happen . im sorry for what the end was, believe me i want points more than the most and i do not want trouble, had enough

well you had me. If you went south, and attacked the my guy you could see... youd have won right there. I accept this was a mistake though, and an easy one to mistake if rushing. Its just that it looked suspicious because you killed another target, instead of winning the game.

rbelgrod wrote:well the game number was Game 6244549and i did not try to take out red, in fuedal , especially fog, i saw yellows castle and i was trying to run north, i saw red had over 19 territs and i took a castle, his. how would i know where or who had who. and you, he was s0 strong. im not doing or going to do anything wrong, and i am being real careful as to who i attack, these things happen . im sorry for what the end was, believe me i want points more than the most and i do not want trouble, had enough

Uh. What? There's a region counter right next to the map. Who has whom doesn't mean anything in this case; you knew you didn't have green, and you still took out red.

no i do not know him that well, and after all the shit i just went through, im not doing no crap, bad move , bad choice, whatever it was, my fault, thats all i can say

i was also in about 10 active speed games, no excuse, but i know i was making rush decisions. again i said im sorry .

rbelgrod wrote:i was also in about 10 active speed games, no excuse, but i know i was making rush decisions. again i said im sorry .

We had a great game going there... and I had lost every possible chance of winning it..but its a damn shame to put so much time into a good game, just to see it given to another player for no good reason whatsoever. Im very happy to know it was just a mistake.

I do find it ironic that Im essentially complaining that you didnt kill me though.

lol, i know , but i understand your thoughts and feelings too. i really did not do anything intentionally, i was rushing and i saw red on the go, i thought i could get in front of his 24 or 25 terr-its and gain a castle, that's all.....by the time i saw pink, it was too late .....so believe what you may, but it was innocent fun, that's all.....
like i said i don't even need my name to be anywhere but in the games or tourneys, kinda like on parole for something i had no control over, but in this game i had control of me. and i made a poor fog decision, that's all....there are alot of times in fog where castles are changed constantly, i thought the idea was to become stronger ( pick up castles) while searching for your opponent and keep changing positions if need be to find them
so as i said before, im sorry and am no way guilty of helping anyone, just guilty of playing too many games , doodles, at 1 time and switching back and fourth....thats all i have to say besides sorry for messing up the game, believe me . i wish i was in position to take you out instead.
started today with swords again and down i went, i need points , not dumb choices of my moves

rbelgrod wrote:lol, i know , but i understand your thoughts and feelings too. i really did not do anything intentionally, i was rushing and i saw red on the go, i thought i could get in front of his 24 or 25 terr-its and gain a castle, that's all.....by the time i saw pink, it was too late .....so believe what you may, but it was innocent fun, that's all.....
like i said i don't even need my name to be anywhere but in the games or tourneys, kinda like on parole for something i had no control over, but in this game i had control of me. and i made a poor fog decision, that's all....there are alot of times in fog where castles are changed constantly, i thought the idea was to become stronger ( pick up castles) while searching for your opponent and keep changing positions if need be to find them
so as i said before, im sorry and am no way guilty of helping anyone, just guilty of playing too many games , doodles, at 1 time and switching back and fourth....thats all i have to say besides sorry for messing up the game, believe me . i wish i was in position to take you out instead.
started today with swords again and down i went, i need points , not dumb choices of my moves

Ok, well at least you are saying that you just didnt see me next to your big stack... it is hard to believe, but it is possible at least. Had green not been someone you play with so repeatedly, I wouldnt even have suspected anything. I myself am not suggesting any action... but I think given the past... this does need to be noted...not officially...just kept here...

I will take the leap and believe you, and certainly Ive made my fair share of mistakes... but Id be very careful from here on out. Unfortunately, we have all seen how players who have done one thing wrong, will continue on sometimes.

Also, this is only one game. I dont think much could be done anyways. I really only posted it to make sure you werent up to something on a lot of games. If you aren't, than great.

You do seem very sincere in your apology.

All I can do is reiterate Blitz's warning: be more careful.

Sorry again I had to post this...but clearly.. .something was amiss. If it was all just a coincidence...I am very, very sorry.
I respect the right of anyone to make an absolutely ridiculous move that not only costs them the game...but gives it to someone else. Im just mores suspicious when it turns out to be what looks like a friend.

hey it was a fun game and if how many times do you think i played any player with 11000 games, especially
in the doodle rooms, its cool , i said i can understand
i will tread very carefully as i was all day in doodle, i do not want trouble, im here for the fun , thats all
i just feel sorry for the mods having to deal with all this crap

rbelgrod wrote:hey it was a fun game and if how many times do you think i played any player with 11000 games, especially
in the doodle rooms, its cool , i said i can understand
i will tread very carefully as i was all day in doodle, i do not want trouble, im here for the fun , thats all
i just feel sorry for the mods having to deal with all this crap

Well, I believe you, and sorry for the hassel.

It was just unfortunate timing. It was the very fact that I know you are skilled that peaked my suspicion on this one. Missing the opportunity to take me out on one turn, and then essentially giving it to another player, who just happened to appear to be a friend was just difficult to understand, except.. no one that has played as much as you, hasn't missed an opoprtunity like that at some point.

Sorry again.

closed as per the originator's request