Conquer Club

Accused:

DJENRE
Evil_Jared


The accused are suspected of:
Conducting Secret Diplomacy


Game number(s):

Game 6197260


Comments:I confronted them in chat, red's defense: r u a girl?
green: we are all out for 1st.

[quote=somebody else]oh yeah, i had a look, and these two are definitely in for it[/quote]

I'm not even gonna take this seriously, I must have been using conquerclub for three years, never had a problem with anyone else... this guy's just bitter cos things didn't pan out exactly how he wanted them to...

Evil_Jared wrote:I'm not even gonna take this seriously, I must have been using conquerclub for three years, never had a problem with anyone else... this guy's just bitter cos things didn't pan out exactly how he wanted them to...

actually, they're going pretty well, but for almost 10 rounds, you've only attacked me. Edit:7 rounds. only took 1. you can go back 12 rounds to when you took 2.

Evil_Jared wrote:I'm not even gonna take this seriously, I must have been using conquerclub for three years, never had a problem with anyone else... this guy's just bitter cos things didn't pan out exactly how he wanted them to...

Dude, really if you haven't attacked each other since.... Round 16?....then youreally have something going that ain't in the game chat.

Vodean had a huge advantage, it's a schoolboy tactic, attack whoever has the best bonus before the balance tips too far their way and they run away with it...

Game Logs wrote:2009-12-31 09:52:32 - Evil_Jared deployed 9 troops on Cairo
2009-12-31 09:52:35 - Evil_Jared assaulted Dubai from Cairo and conquered it from vodean
2009-12-31 09:52:39 - Evil_Jared assaulted Nairobi from Dubai and conquered it from vodean
2009-12-31 09:52:46 - Evil_Jared assaulted Mumbai from Dubai and conquered it from vodean
2009-12-31 09:53:09 - Evil_Jared reinforced Cairo with 1 troops from Mumbai
2009-12-31 09:53:09 - Evil_Jared ended the turn and got spoils
2009-12-31 09:54:47 - vodean received 2 troops for holding Oceania
2009-12-31 09:54:47 - vodean received 5 troops for 15 regions
2009-12-31 09:54:55 - vodean deployed 7 troops on Delhi
2009-12-31 09:54:57 - vodean assaulted Mumbai from Delhi and conquered it from Evil_Jared
2009-12-31 09:55:02 - vodean assaulted Dubai from Mumbai and conquered it from Evil_Jared
2009-12-31 09:55:06 - vodean assaulted Nairobi from Dubai and conquered it from Evil_Jared
2009-12-31 09:55:29 - vodean assaulted Johannesburg from Nairobi and conquered it from Evil_Jared
2009-12-31 09:55:40 - vodean reinforced Bangkok with 2 troops from Johannesburg
2009-12-31 09:55:40 - vodean ended the turn and got spoils
2009-12-31 09:58:52 - DJENRE received 4 troops for 13 regions
2009-12-31 09:59:17 - DJENRE deployed 4 troops on Reykjavik
2009-12-31 09:59:21 - DJENRE assaulted London from Reykjavik and conquered it from vodean
2009-12-31 09:59:50 - DJENRE ended the turn and got spoils
2009-12-31 09:59:50 - Incrementing game to round 24
2009-12-31 10:00:10 - Evil_Jared received 2 troops for holding South America
2009-12-31 10:00:10 - Evil_Jared received 3 troops for 10 regions
2009-12-31 10:00:39 - Evil_Jared deployed 5 troops on Dakar
2009-12-31 10:00:44 - Evil_Jared assaulted Madrid from Dakar and conquered it from vodean
2009-12-31 10:00:54 - Evil_Jared ended the turn and got spoils
2009-12-31 10:08:15 - vodean received 2 troops for holding Oceania
2009-12-31 10:08:15 - vodean received 5 troops for 17 regions
2009-12-31 10:08:26 - vodean cashed in a group of Vancouver, Beunos Aires, and Sao Paulo worth 8 troops
2009-12-31 10:08:36 - vodean deployed 4 troops on Dubai
2009-12-31 10:08:40 - vodean deployed 3 troops on Moscow
2009-12-31 10:08:46 - vodean deployed 8 troops on Tokyo
2009-12-31 10:08:48 - vodean assaulted Magadan from Tokyo and conquered it from DJENRE
2009-12-31 10:08:54 - vodean assaulted Yakutsk from Magadan and conquered it from DJENRE
2009-12-31 10:09:00 - vodean ended the turn and got spoils
2009-12-31 10:09:04 - DJENRE received 4 troops for 12 regions
2009-12-31 10:09:13 - DJENRE cashed in a group of Dubai, Montreal, and Lima worth 4 troops
2009-12-31 10:09:13 - DJENRE got bonus of 2 troops added to Montreal
2009-12-31 10:09:31 - DJENRE deployed 8 troops on Anchorage
2009-12-31 10:09:34 - DJENRE assaulted Magadan from Anchorage and conquered it from vodean
2009-12-31 10:09:50 - DJENRE assaulted Tokyo from Magadan and conquered it from vodean
2009-12-31 10:09:57 - DJENRE assaulted Yakutsk from Magadan and conquered it from vodean
2009-12-31 10:10:43 - DJENRE ended the turn and got spoils
2009-12-31 10:10:43 - Incrementing game to round 25
2009-12-31 10:10:46 - Evil_Jared received 2 troops for holding South America
2009-12-31 10:10:46 - Evil_Jared received 3 troops for 11 regions
2009-12-31 10:11:04 - Evil_Jared deployed 5 troops on Cape Town
2009-12-31 10:11:07 - Evil_Jared assaulted Johannesburg from Cape Town and conquered it from vodean
2009-12-31 10:11:12 - Evil_Jared assaulted Nairobi from Johannesburg and conquered it from vodean
2009-12-31 10:11:29 - Evil_Jared reinforced Dakar with 2 troops from Nairobi
2009-12-31 10:11:29 - Evil_Jared ended the turn and got spoils

And it keeps going and going and going with red and green only attacking vodean.

Hmm, methinks this dynamic could go on indefinitely...

lets see how this pans out...its a 3 player game and can always look 'suss' attacking the strongest player is a common in any game. If you could provide further evidence in other games of these 2 then we can go from there....but for the moment...noted

hmmm I may be outta line saying so so srry if I am but checking the game recently and green and red has the lead and red isn't taking green's 1 territory for a bonus of 5... blue also seems to have less troops than EITHER of them. So like I said before I may be outta line saying this but aren't you surprised at how many troops are in North America with neither atacking the other?

jak111 wrote:hmmm I may be outta line saying so so srry if I am but checking the game recently and green and red has the lead and red isn't taking green's 1 territory for a bonus of 5... blue also seems to have less troops than EITHER of them. So like I said before I may be outta line saying this but aren't you surprised at how many troops are in North America with neither atacking the other?

multi? how do you know so much? thanks for the help colton. Its going to be hard to provide more evidence. this is my only recent 3 player game with these 2...

This is the only game that Evil_Jared and DJENRE have played in

TheForgivenOne wrote:This is the only game that Evil_Jared and DJENRE have played in

exactly

vodean wrote:I confronted them in chat, red's defense: r u a girl?
green: we are all out for 1st.

It was more like this:
2009-12-31 08:35:46 - vodean: red u attack green or im filing a C&A complaint
2009-12-31 08:37:46 - Evil_Jared: we are all looking out for number one, dont be a girl blue
2009-12-31 08:41:01 - vodean: do you realize that the last time either of u launched an attack on eachother was round 16?
2009-12-31 08:41:41 - DJENRE: C&A???
2009-12-31 08:41:47 - DJENRE: lol
2009-12-31 08:41:54 - DJENRE: are u wearing a dress?

http://www.c-and-a.com/

It was actually a pretty decent joke, hahaha

This doesn't seem like secret diplomacy to me; if anything, trying to force them to attack each other by threatening to file a report, when it might not be the best move for them, seems pretty shitty.

rutherfoo wrote:

vodean wrote:I confronted them in chat, red's defense: r u a girl?
green: we are all out for 1st.

It was more like this:
2009-12-31 08:35:46 - vodean: red u attack green or im filing a C&A complaint
2009-12-31 08:37:46 - Evil_Jared: we are all looking out for number one, dont be a girl blue
2009-12-31 08:41:01 - vodean: do you realize that the last time either of u launched an attack on eachother was round 16?
2009-12-31 08:41:41 - DJENRE: C&A???
2009-12-31 08:41:47 - DJENRE: lol
2009-12-31 08:41:54 - DJENRE: are u wearing a dress?

http://www.c-and-a.com/

It was actually a pretty decent joke, hahaha

This doesn't seem like secret diplomacy to me; if anything, trying to force them to attack each other by threatening to file a report, when it might not be the best move for them, seems pretty shitty.

after that one did realize the error of his ways-somewhat, but the other has practically not attacked me for almost 20 rounds

Also, on cc, I really hope ppl dont fking start saying ppl are female when they arent cuz it can get annoying. GO FIGURE!
If DJENRE just conquer africa he can win the game. So why not? just 2 troops between him and victory

kazoo wrote:Also, on cc, I really hope ppl dont fking start saying ppl are female when they arent cuz it can get annoying. GO FIGURE!
If DJENRE just conquer africa he can win the game. So why not? just 2 troops between him and victory

they are acting very dumb. i notice how they have completely given up on defending them.

2010-01-01 12:12:34 - DJENRE: kazoo how do u want I conquer africa??? wwith 5 reinforcment?
2010-01-01 12:34:43 - Evil_Jared: why you in our game chat?
2010-01-01 12:34:52 - Evil_Jared: get a life you loser
2010-01-01 12:35:09 - Evil_Jared: and vodean you really are a nob head
2010-01-01 12:35:21 - Evil_Jared: this is getting very old
2010-01-01 15:55:43 - kazoo: fk u evil jared
2010-01-01 15:55:57 - kazoo: yeah dj, do it right after i bring it up
2010-01-01 15:56:01 - kazoo: good cover

they are just being abusive now. also, take a look at Game 6186611.this is the entire chat:
2009-12-31 22:10:20 - vodean: gl blue, bl green
2009-12-31 22:59:51 - Evil_Jared: vodean is a shit name red
2010-01-02 10:13:42 - vodean: and you are a cheater

completely unprovoked. now they are both on foe.

Hi all.

I just read that report thanks to brann2006 wo told me on callouts (chat) that I've been reported and he did'nt want to play cheater like me. I thought he was jocking but he send me this link.

So I'll try to explain everything here. Sorry for my english (like u see, I'm french), I'll try to be understandable...

I'm losing my time here but this story is so ridiculous and I want to make it funny. so be ready.

Evil_Jared wrote:I'm not even gonna take this seriously, I must have been using conquerclub for three years, never had a problem with anyone else... this guy's just bitter cos things didn't pan out exactly how he wanted them to...

Yes, me too I'm usually on CC to have fun and play quietly. I'm not used to be reported by a 15 years old boy....

vodean wrote:actually, they're going pretty well, but for almost 10 rounds, you've only attacked me. Edit:7 rounds. only took 1. you can go back 12 rounds to when you took 2.

colton24 wrote:Dude, really if you haven't attacked each other since.... Round 16?....then youreally have something going that ain't in the game chat..

Is there any problem with that? does that mean we are conducing secret diplomacy? Not at all. Vodean is the leader and we're attacking him both. That's the way a 3 players game is going. And if u can't accept that, u should stop playing 3 players anymore...It's always 2vs1....

jak111 wrote:hmmm I may be outta line saying so so srry if I am but checking the game recently and green and red has the lead and red isn't taking green's 1 territory for a bonus of 5... blue also seems to have less troops than EITHER of them. So like I said before I may be outta line saying this but aren't you surprised at how many troops are in North America with neither atacking the other?

Sorry jack but who the hell u are? Nothing tell u're a moderator or something else? U're a new recruit and already able to judge me? I went on forum after I played hundreds of game so I don't understand why u're here and cheating on me and eviljared...
And if I didn't take the bonus it's because if I did, I was the leader and both of them have attacked me because vodean just attack who has the best bonus since round 1. I prefer store some armies and let them kill each other while I was storing troops on my frontiers...
It's another tactic than urs vodean....having bonus is not the only way to win on CC. Maybe u should try that one to have a better rank than ur's and a better rate than 30%win.... A 50% should make u less angry about game....

vodean wrote:multi? how do you know so much? thanks for the help colton. Its going to be hard to provide more evidence. this is my only recent 3 player game with these 2...

???? What's the f*ck vodean? are u trying to tell that colton 24 has some important information cause I never heard about and I didn't see any post from colton about that....Is that a private message he send u or are u trying to lie?
And like u told, it's ur first game with both of us and it's because I never played with eviljared before.

Another question : How many friends have u got on CC? Cause it seems may players came to see our game and let messages. colton24, kazoo (who was cool when we played together...), now a new recruit (jack111). Are u creating new avatars to talk on chat? could be multi.....

kazoo wrote:Also, on cc, I really hope ppl dont fking start saying ppl are female when they arent cuz it can get annoying. GO FIGURE!
If DJENRE just conquer africa he can win the game. So why not? just 2 troops between him and victory

Kazoo are u blind? I'm in north america.... How do u want I conquer africa with a 6, a 2 and three 1 with 5 reinforcments?
This thing is ridiculous...

So now could u explain me why I could cheat the game? To earn some points? I'm here to play and have fun...I don't care about the rank and if u check my games I play really often with private first class even if I can lose may points in one game.
And how could I do that?
By private message? I'm sure moderator can check and see I did'nt send any message to eviljared. and if they had, be sure they'll report it soon.
By phone? I'm from france and eviljared is from...england (thought he was from US) . Do u really think I gonna pay 2€ per min on phone to win a game vs a such bad player like u?
By carrier pigeon maybe? I lost them a long time ago...They never came back. Maybe u should report it to the WWF


And the last thing :

rutherfoo wrote:

vodean wrote:I confronted them in chat, red's defense: r u a girl?
green: we are all out for 1st.

It was more like this:
2009-12-31 08:35:46 - vodean: red u attack green or im filing a C&A complaint
2009-12-31 08:37:46 - Evil_Jared: we are all looking out for number one, dont be a girl blue
2009-12-31 08:41:01 - vodean: do you realize that the last time either of u launched an attack on eachother was round 16?
2009-12-31 08:41:41 - DJENRE: C&A???
2009-12-31 08:41:47 - DJENRE: lol
2009-12-31 08:41:54 - DJENRE: are u wearing a dress?

http://www.c-and-a.com/

It was actually a pretty decent joke, hahaha

This doesn't seem like secret diplomacy to me; if anything, trying to force them to attack each other by threatening to file a report, when it might not be the best move for them, seems pretty shitty.

Thank u rutherfoo, at least one person who understand the joke Cause it was a joke but vodean just quote u're a girl so hard to understand the whole story...
But because vodean and colton became pprofessionnal in copy and paste the whole game chat, i'll do the same to explain everybody and I dedicate especially this "copy and paste" to my friends vodean and colton....

2009-12-31 10:35:46 - vodean: red u attack green or im filing a C&A complaint
2009-12-31 10:37:46 - Evil_Jared: we are all looking out for number one, dont be a girl blue
2009-12-31 10:41:01 - vodean: do you realize that the last time either of u launched an attack on eachother was round 16?
2009-12-31 10:41:41 - DJENRE: C&A???
2009-12-31 10:41:47 - DJENRE: lol
2009-12-31 10:41:54 - DJENRE: are u wearing a dress?
2009-12-31 10:42:08 - vodean: ya
2009-12-31 10:42:17 - vodean: Its called secret diplomacy
2009-12-31 10:42:41 - vodean: read the rules at this url: http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=rules
2009-12-31 10:43:16 - vodean: no
2009-12-31 10:43:27 - vodean: no dress
2009-12-31 10:44:16 - vodean: ur lucky im not a female or a feminist or id go over there and whoop ur butt

..............................................
2009-12-31 11:05:55 - DJENRE: I didn't read the game chat since a moment....
2009-12-31 11:06:37 - DJENRE: so : I'm not having secret diplomacy with anybody...I know the rules
2009-12-31 11:07:00 - DJENRE: If I'm not attacking the one to get the region it's because it is my interest...
2009-12-31 11:07:27 - DJENRE: And I told u was a girl because u told me u want to make a C&A report...
2009-12-31 11:07:50 - vodean: - colton24: Go vodean!
2009-12-31 11:07:53 - vodean: thanks
2009-12-31 11:07:56 - Evil_Jared: hes gone and reported us lol
2009-12-31 11:07:57 - DJENRE: u maybe meant C&C or CC report cause C&A is a dress shop....
2009-12-31 11:08:15 - Evil_Jared: lol
2009-12-31 11:11:01 - DJENRE: lol
2009-12-31 11:11:17 - DJENRE: he doesn't answer anymore?


SO it was a joke about CC and C&A (see this link for more info: http://www.c-and-a.com/ )
And even a feminist won't be upset with the simple question : are u a girl?

vodean wrote:they are just being abusive now. also, take a look at Game 6186611.this is the entire chat:
2009-12-31 22:10:20 - vodean: gl blue, bl green
2009-12-31 22:59:51 - Evil_Jared: vodean is a shit name red
2010-01-02 10:13:42 - vodean: and you are a cheater

completely unprovoked. now they are both on foe.

1/ why are taking just some sentences from game chat? see date and time are u trying to show urself as a victim?
2/ No please don't foe me!!!! please!!!! PLEASE!!!!! Do u really think I wanted to play a crying baby like u anymore?



Now vodean please understand u're just wasting ur time, mine and moderator's too.
So stop that cheat cause like I told on the top of this thing, now, people in callouts believe I'm a cheater. How can u sort it out now and give my reputation back?
Do I have to report u? Cause u're the one who cheats and lies.

If any moderator read that piece of sit from vodean, please close this topic cause there is no reason for it.

Sincerelly.

As LV said its common to use the strategy of attacking one player to reduce his masses in a game, and in a 3 player game its common to see actions like this and think its secret diplomacy. Also as LV said we would need more evidence to warrant any kind of disciplinary action between the 2, and with this being the only game they have ever played in this will get Noted, and nothing further unless more comes to the table.

As for this:

vodean wrote:they are just being abusive now. also, take a look at Game 6186611.this is the entire chat:
2009-12-31 22:10:20 - vodean: gl blue, bl green
2009-12-31 22:59:51 - Evil_Jared: vodean is a shit name red
2010-01-02 10:13:42 - vodean: and you are a cheater

completely unprovoked. now they are both on foe.

Its not really unprovoked, nor would it be totally wrong for them to single you out in the game you are in with them now. You have basically blasted them and smeared their names when you called them cheats because they didn't want to do your bidding, and if they choose to attack solely you to eliminate you because of it then well its not really unwarranted. Nor are the comments he posted in that chat, had he came into a game that you were in and he wasn't then yes he would get a Warning for spamming/trolling game chat.

Use the Foe/Rating Button as you see fit.

I will leave this open for LV in case someone has more evidence to add, otherwise like we said it will be Noted & Closed.

KS

Thank u KS for ur answer.

Hope u will warm vodean cause he's still trying to get my name down on callouts chat when I ask for an rt game. I don't want to open a report for that so I hope he'll stop quickly.

Ty for everything

king sam wrote:As LV said its common to use the strategy of attacking one player to reduce his masses in a game, and in a 3 player game its common to see actions like this and think its secret diplomacy. Also as LV said we would need more evidence to warrant any kind of disciplinary action between the 2, and with this being the only game they have ever played in this will get Noted, and nothing further unless more comes to the table.

As for this:

vodean wrote:they are just being abusive now. also, take a look at Game 6186611.this is the entire chat:
2009-12-31 22:10:20 - vodean: gl blue, bl green
2009-12-31 22:59:51 - Evil_Jared: vodean is a shit name red
2010-01-02 10:13:42 - vodean: and you are a cheater

completely unprovoked. now they are both on foe.

Its not really unprovoked, nor would it be totally wrong for them to single you out in the game you are in with them now. You have basically blasted them and smeared their names when you called them cheats because they didn't want to do your bidding, and if they choose to attack solely you to eliminate you because of it then well its not really unwarranted. Nor are the comments he posted in that chat, had he came into a game that you were in and he wasn't then yes he would get a Warning for spamming/trolling game chat.

Use the Foe/Rating Button as you see fit.

I will leave this open for LV in case someone has more evidence to add, otherwise like we said it will be Noted & Closed.

KS

for much of the game i actually had a smaller drop than them, and smaller region(s).

djenre, you were also in europe so you could have attacked

Cleared. Rate/Foe Accordingly.