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Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241 [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:04 am
by viper9
Accused:

Trackhan
Barrytheobald
Morgan241

The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

5972203

Comments:

Morgan241 hasn't seemed concerned about his troops in the castle for quite some time. Today I discovered that he and the other players, apparently, have agreed to some sort of deal that prevents them from attacking each other -- or, at least, from attacking certain of each other's territories. Now Barrytheobaldhas complained that he is "stuck" in the castle -- because he is able only to attack his undeclared allies? Trackhan has given him permission to take one of his territories.

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:01 pm
by Darthvadar
viper9 wrote:Accused:

Trackhan
Barrytheobald
Morgan241

The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 5972203

Comments:

Morgan241 hasn't seemed concerned about his troops in the castle for quite some time. Today I discovered that he and the other players, apparently, have agreed to some sort of deal that prevents them from attacking each other -- or, at least, from attacking certain of each other's territories. Now Barrytheobaldhas complained that he is "stuck" in the castle -- because he is able only to attack his undeclared allies? Trackhan has given him permission to take one of his territories.


Linked it right up for you

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:41 pm
by VampireM
viper last round u got 21 troops, the other players got 6,6,7.. just becasue they didnt make a verbal alliance doesnt mean they sent pm's to each other... they understand how close u are to winning and thus u will become the target... this doesnt mean they are conducting secert diplomacy..

weak report imo

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:44 pm
by VampireM
Darthvadar wrote:
viper9 wrote:Accused:

Trakhan
Barrytheobald
Morgan241

The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 5972203

Comments:

Morgan241 hasn't seemed concerned about his troops in the castle for quite some time. Today I discovered that he and the other players, apparently, have agreed to some sort of deal that prevents them from attacking each other -- or, at least, from attacking certain of each other's territories. Now Barrytheobaldhas complained that he is "stuck" in the castle -- because he is able only to attack his undeclared allies? Trackhan has given him permission to take one of his territories.


Linked it right up for you


fixed trakhan name link

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:36 pm
by viper9
VampireM wrote:viper last round u got 21 troops, the other players got 6,6,7.. just becasue they didnt make a verbal alliance doesnt mean they sent pm's to each other... they understand how close u are to winning and thus u will become the target... this doesnt mean they are conducting secert diplomacy..

weak report imo


And if that were the reason I'd provided for believeing they were engaging in secret diplomacy, you would have made an excellent point. As its stands, your point is irrelevant.

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:45 pm
by VampireM
care to explain? if they were working together all the time u wouldnt of made it up to 21 troops a turn.. and look at the log.. they havent been just focusing on u.. u and morgan have had a serious battle going on.. but other then that there is nothing to ur report.. i will be shocked if anything other then clear comes out of it..

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:52 pm
by viper9
VampireM wrote:care to explain? if they were working together all the time u wouldnt of made it up to 21 troops a turn.. and look at the log.. they havent been just focusing on u.. u and morgan have had a serious battle going on.. but other then that there is nothing to ur report.. i will be shocked if anything other then clear comes out of it..


If by "working together" you mean "never attacking each other so that they could all focus on attacking me", then I never said they were working together in that way. The only one who was attacking me most of the game was Morgan so, no, I don't believe they were all conspiring against me. What they did, I believe, was decide not to break certain of each other's bonuses. That's all.

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:15 am
by VampireM
u just arn't looking at it through their eyes... why would they waste troops and hurt there own chances of winning if they hit and break each others bonus when u are making more then all three of them combined? it doesnt make sense.. to accuse and make a case against people for secret diplomacy they would have to be sending pm's to each other, wall posts or anything that isnt in the game chat... u have no proof... there is no history of these guys playing each other... u have nothing other then a sour taste in ur mouth because they didnt play the way u would of liked to see... sorry but u have no case..

just because u were the target of them doesnt make it secret diplomacy..

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:25 am
by viper9
VampireM wrote:u just arn't looking at it through their eyes... why would they waste troops and hurt there own chances of winning if they hit and break each others bonus when u are making more then all three of them combined? it doesnt make sense.. to accuse and make a case against people for secret diplomacy they would have to be sending pm's to each other, wall posts or anything that isnt in the game chat... u have no proof... there is no history of these guys playing each other... u have nothing other then a sour taste in ur mouth because they didnt play the way u would of liked to see... sorry but u have no case..

just because u were the target of them doesnt make it secret diplomacy..


Smetimes I wish I could live in VampireM's world. Such bliss.

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:33 pm
by Electricksabers
viper9 wrote:
VampireM wrote:u just arn't looking at it through their eyes... why would they waste troops and hurt there own chances of winning if they hit and break each others bonus when u are making more then all three of them combined? it doesnt make sense.. to accuse and make a case against people for secret diplomacy they would have to be sending pm's to each other, wall posts or anything that isnt in the game chat... u have no proof... there is no history of these guys playing each other... u have nothing other then a sour taste in ur mouth because they didnt play the way u would of liked to see... sorry but u have no case..

just because u were the target of them doesnt make it secret diplomacy..


Smetimes I wish I could live in VampireM's world. Such bliss.


It hard to tell without seeing the map, but I don't see anything in the game chat that would suggest secret diplomacy. Why would they waste their troops on each other when you are the strongest. If they attack each other you will surely win. That is typically what happens in multi-player games. A tactic people use in fow is to say hey we should attack the leader, and then say they can't see the leader so the other players will attack the leader. What Vampire is saying is spot on. You will have to protect your self or try to divert everyone to another player by making them think another player is stronger than you. I have played tons of game with similar game chat and tactics used

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:46 pm
by VampireM
shaneback wrote:
viper9 wrote:
VampireM wrote:u just arn't looking at it through their eyes... why would they waste troops and hurt there own chances of winning if they hit and break each others bonus when u are making more then all three of them combined? it doesnt make sense.. to accuse and make a case against people for secret diplomacy they would have to be sending pm's to each other, wall posts or anything that isnt in the game chat... u have no proof... there is no history of these guys playing each other... u have nothing other then a sour taste in ur mouth because they didnt play the way u would of liked to see... sorry but u have no case..

just because u were the target of them doesnt make it secret diplomacy..


Smetimes I wish I could live in VampireM's world. Such bliss.


It hard to tell without seeing the map, but I don't see anything in the game chat that would suggest secret diplomacy. Why would they waste their troops on each other when you are the strongest. If they attack each other you will surely win. That is typically what happens in multi-player games. A tactic people use in fow is to say hey we should attack the leader, and then say they can't see the leader so the other players will attack the leader. What Vampire is saying is spot on. You will have to protect your self or try to divert everyone to another player by making them think another player is stronger than you. I have played tons of game with similar game chat and tactics used



I guess that makes two of us in my world.. or should i say our world? welcome friend... :lol:

Merry Christmas all and Happy Holidays

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:01 am
by king achilles
I have to agree with VampireM. Cleared.

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:45 am
by Electricksabers
king achilles wrote:I have to agree with VampireM. Cleared.


Looks like there are 3 of us Vampire... :D

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241 [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:27 pm
by VampireM
haha, i dont mind him being wrong on his accusation.. but to be so stubborn not to even look from anyone else’s prospective and call anyone who disagrees with u out is just plain bad manners..

i think what the great king A said is sig worthy

king achilles wrote:I have to agree with VampireM.


:D =D> :lol:

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241 [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:32 pm
by viper9
VampireM, do you seriously believe that the fact that I disagreed with your (in my opinion) warped view of the situation means that I refused to take another perspective? I disagreed with your interpretation precisely because I could see it from your perspective.

I disagree with the verdict, but it's clear your little club has its own way of doing business, behind closed doors, without explicit reasoning that we can examine.

It's been a fun game anyway, and since I made the complaint, things seem to be on the level. Just a coincidence, of course.

Thanks for looking into it.

Re: Trackhan, Barrytheobald, Morgan241 [Cleared]

PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:08 pm
by VampireM
lol yeah man, the owner of the site and i are tight... us Canadians have to stick together eh... common man u are so into this conspiracy theory u got going on in ur head u arnt looking at the simple facts... i have no reason to defend the players u accused as i have never spoke to them.. i just dont understand u viper..