Conquer Club

Accused:

rbelgrod
Mageplunka
Arish Babil



The accused are suspected of:

Sever Game Abuse
Point Dumping



Game number(s):

3 player assassian games on AOR1 with mega, arish and rbelgrod:

Game 6039067
Game 6039066
Game 6039064
Game 6035773
Game 6027969
Game 6027968
Game 6015782


2 player games on doodle with rbekgrod v megaplunka

Game 6021762
Game 6021761
Game 6021760
Game 6009652
Game 6009620
Game 5999812
Game 5999811
Game 5999675
Game 5999673
Game 5990247
Game 5990246

Game 6027978 - #1 stunna, mageplunka, arish babil, rbelgrod
Game 6033161 - 1v1 doodle rbelgrod v #1 stunna



Comments:
so i came accros this by mistake, noticed rbelgrod got his bird and was wondering how he was doing it (what type of games he was playing).. all games posted are all won by Rbelgrod.. these players know the game but lose to rbelgord every time, the same way, mostly hitting neutrals in the doodle games or rbelgrod's target comes out in the AOR1 games.. i only looked at the first page of rbelgrods games so there are probably more

i think mageplunka was punished before for something like this.

i dont want to believe rbelgrod is up to no good, so i am not going to look at this claim. i like rbel.

GO RBELGROD!!!

my evidence is coming shortly on this one. Pending

a quick search of games with rbelgrod, mageplunka and arish babil, show 38 non-team games, rbelgrod wins all except for 1 of these, and it is won by none of them. and some of these are 6 man games, not just the small 3-man assassins....

not that that makes him guilty.... but.. if hes not, rbelgrod is crazy good, lol

rbelgrod & Mageplunka were Blocked Dec 3 2008 for throwing games and rbelgrod received a Score reset back to 1439 points. (can be found in this claim)

The Block was taken off by King A because both had been on good behavior since then, and more then less to give them a 2nd chance. This was done roughly around September 6th. Since then its fairly obvious that he has gone back to the old ways.

His excuse last time was that he was training his son on these maps, I'm quite curious his excuse this time seeing as the maps he continually plays with his son on are maps that they are both well equipped to manage and need no training on, given the amount of games they've played on them. Either way here are the stats on the abuse that has gone on. Expect disciplinary actions to take place, I need King A to hand it out, since I got an "Itchy Trigger Finger and All". But the evidence is quite damning.


Finished games since Sept 6th

1 vs 1's played on Doodle or AOR maps rbelgrod won 23 out of 23 for 391 points.

show: 1 vs 1 game evidence

3 player games are fairly easy to win when you have the comfort of having 2 accounts do your bidding. rbelgrod won 30 out of 30 three player games for 872 points. Its also important to note here that
Arish Babil played in 26 of these 30.

show: 3 player game evidence

Its still a great advantage having 2 players do your bidding in any game, even better with 3. In the 13 non teams games that has been played with these 2 in this time frame (Arish Babil being in 12 of these) rbelgrod won 12 out of 13 for 719 points.

show: More than 3 player Non Teams games evidence

And just cause I think it is noteworthy here to mention the whole detail of the abuse that was going on I have included this tid bit. Immediately following the release of the Block these 2 played in countless teams games with the sole intent being to increase Mageplunka's score/rank so it could be capitalized on later for all those ill gotten points I pointed out above.

show: Ill gotten points from Teams games evidence

And if you look at the Current Active Games between the 2 you will see another build up of teams games that are going on right now to do the same cycle as I mentioned above. 18 to be exact.

show: Still Active games

So I think everyone can see fairly clearly whats going on here. And without talking about the teams games, which as I said were obviously there just to build up scores for more points to be gained there is a total of
65 out of 66 wins in games in this time frame that involved rbelgrod & Mageplunka and out of those 66 games there are 43 games that Arish Babil could have been in (3 or more players), in which he was in 38 of them. All for a total point gain of 1982 points.

As I said this is abuse on all 3 accounts. Expect this to be handled fairly shortly.

King Sam

very nice presentation and good evidence.. nice work king sam... i await the punishment..

awwww Rbel is a good player, don't know why he'd do this. Hopefully a score reset to 1k + block from playing with Mageplunka and Arish Babil will suffice.

kind of damning evidence.....

damn!

well we were playing in fun, and i won alot, i know i was warned about abuse, but how many people like king of gods, clean up against most opponents? if i get banned so be it, but we were playing for real......and i did good....im not dumb enough to take any chances,i was warned and blocked from my son mageplunka before i admit, but whatever king decides is good enough for me. life sucks enough right now, so if i have to give up cc, so be it....i really hope you can see that,so if you want to block us , so be it, or if you want to take all the points i have won by them so be it, its only a game which i am good at and which i enjoy......so do as you please and im sorry if anyone thinks otherwise

rbelgrod wrote:well we were playing in fun, and i won alot, i know i was warned about abuse, but how many people like king of gods, clean up against most opponents? if i get banned so be it, but we were playing for real......and i did good....im not dumb enough to take any chances,i was warned and blocked from my son mageplunka before i admit, but whatever king decides is good enough for me. life sucks enough right now, so if i have to give up cc, so be it....i really hope you can see that,so if you want to block us , so be it, or if you want to take all the points i have won by them so be it, its only a game which i am good at and which i enjoy......so do as you please and im sorry if anyone thinks otherwise

you're fucking kidding right?

if i played my dog in 23 doodle earth games he'd probably end up winning at least one...

no one in their right mind would ever dream of farming on that luckfest map... and to insinuate that you're a great enough player that no drop or dice can affect you on that map is kinda silly dude...

So let me understand general principle. You have player A playing against player B. There is no proof that they ever communicated and let us say player B makes ridiculous/stupid/call it whatever you want moves. Without any proof you will assume that player A participated in that ? Regardless of the win %, statistics etc. there is NO PROOF (regardless of how obvious that may be) that A participated in that. You may prove that player B decided to let player A win but that is proof of that thing ONLY and does not prove anything else. So in my opinion this is pretty arbitrary judgement and I am starting to dislike this type of "moderator" judgement less and less.

And on a personal note I think it is rather pathetic for anybody to check how anybody else became, brig, general, marshall or whatever.

cutebastard71 wrote:So let me understand general principle. You have player A playing against player B. There is no proof that they ever communicated and let us say player B makes ridiculous/stupid/call it whatever you want moves. Without any proof you will assume that player A participated in that ? Regardless of the win %, statistics etc. there is NO PROOF (regardless of how obvious that may be) that A participated in that. You may prove that player B decided to let player A win but that is proof of that thing ONLY and does not prove anything else. So in my opinion this is pretty arbitrary judgement and I am starting to dislike this type of "moderator" judgement less and less.

And on a personal note I think it is rather pathetic for anybody to check how anybody else became, brig, general, marshall or whatever.

Meh you've got to be kidding me. You probably deny the holocaust too with that kind of logic. The circumstantial evidence alone is more than enough to strip all members of premium as well as score resets + blocks, if not a website ban altogether. The evidence is damning and of course he can't admit what happened. He could at least come clean but he won't even do that.

That is your personal point of view and I do not see how you are throwing in holocaust for which there is a physical evidence of what has been done and was actually proven in court. There is a difference between what you think you KNOW and what you can PROVE. FYI holocaust has been proven and I saw PHYSICAL EVIDENCE of it when visited Auschwitz, Dachau, and Mauthausen. I haven't seen PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that rbelgrod participated in this. The only thing I saw is that he played games in which his opponents in large number of games made wrong moves. Did he force them, did he ask them, was he aware of that, I do not know. Maybe they decided to give it to him as a Xmas present without him knowing. I would like to see a set of standardized rules that are used for punishment as well as algorithms for establishing guilt/innocence.

As a suggestion to you I will suggest you to think about these words. I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance (@Socrates).

cutebastard71 wrote:FYI holocaust has been proven and I saw PHYSICAL EVIDENCE of it when visited Auschwitz, Dachau, and Mauthausen. I haven't seen PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that rbelgrod participated in this.

Vague pronoun reference -> you seem to be saying that there is no evidence that rbelgrod participated in the Holocaust. Hehe.

Krapht and prism seem to have it right. Reset & block I guess.

Sorry if my poor phrasing confused your intellect. But it seems to me that you understood very well so I am assuming that you are just being an ass.

cutebastard71 wrote:Sorry if my poor phrasing confused your intellect. But it seems to me that you understood very well so I am assuming that you are just being an ass.

one of the best shutdowns i have seen..

cutebastard71 wrote:Sorry if my poor phrasing confused your intellect. But it seems to me that you understood very well so I am assuming that you are just being an ass.

That's about right. Shame your argument holds no ground…

Keep it on topic and stop the name calling.

ok, so i sucked at a lot of games, and maybe just maybe i helped my dad along on the ones i could not win, i admit it......i am guilty not him, blame me not him, i used his password to help him, all my fault, not theirs, dont punish all the people in all those trips and quad game , not to even mention the tourneys, i really did try to win, they had no involvement. and i should be punished
OK, I AM GUILTY LIKE SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO TRY TO HELP SOMEONE ALONG ONCE IN A WHILE
i just wanted to be nice, so reset me , ban me , whatever you want, i hate this crap. how many games did vampire throw in his tourneys with DON 1? all he ever does is acuse others, if you look back into him, i see he did it in 8 out of 11 games.
most of our games were in fun only , no cheating. but i did throw the ones i could not win at, and only the 3 man ones too
i suppose the ones where we are on the same team, all 3 of us, we were cheating too....whatever man
ill just be like jeff hardy and all the others like him, not mentioning all the other people who i know about and constantly cheat....whatever. you cant do anything without a damn baby like vampire crying all the time, must have been the 15 games or so my dad kicked his ass in, always looking to be a multi hunter huh vampire?
make me a cook, id love that, please do...i want to have 600 points on a reset....oh id love that so much

Mageplunka wrote:ok, so i sucked at a lot of games, and maybe just maybe i helped my dad along on the ones i could not win, i admit it......i am guilty not him, blame me not him, i used his password to help him, all my fault, not theirs, dont punish all the people in all those trips and quad game , not to even mention the tourneys, i really did try to win, they had no involvement. and i should be punished
OK, I AM GUILTY LIKE SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO TRY TO HELP SOMEONE ALONG ONCE IN A WHILE
i just wanted to be nice, so reset me , ban me , whatever you want, i hate this crap. how many games did vampire throw in his tourneys with DON 1? all he ever does is acuse others, if you look back into him, i see he did it in 8 out of 11 games.
most of our games were in fun only , no cheating. but i did throw the ones i could not win at, and only the 3 man ones too
i suppose the ones where we are on the same team, all 3 of us, we were cheating too....whatever man
ill just be like jeff hardy and all the others like him, not mentioning all the other people who i know about and constantly cheat....whatever. you cant do anything without a damn baby like vampire crying all the time, must have been the 15 games or so my dad kicked his ass in, always looking to be a multi hunter huh vampire?
make me a cook, id love that, please do...i want to have 600 points on a reset....oh id love that so much

whatever dude, you guys playing 3 player games is bullshit and you know it... and you losing 23 straight 1vs1 doodle earth games is impossible... on the freestyle games there was an average of 10 seconds in between his turn and yours... which is just the right time to log out and log back in under another name... take your ball and go home...

i think rbelgrod is a great player, no doubt in my mind.. i have played 6 games with him and he has won 4.. i am not upset about that at all.. but cheating is cheating, i suspected game abuse so i reported it.. big deal, if there is nothing to hide then u shouldn't be so upset, and if the multi hunters cleared this report i would be the first to apoligize for the incorrect accusations..

1v1 is a scary game, luck is a huge factor in the average 1v1 game.. Don 1 beat me in our golf tourny, was his strategy better then mine? maybe, maybe not.. his good dice or maybe the lack of mine determined most of those games...

its just a game, i do not wish for these players to be banned or stripped of their premium...

cutebastard71 wrote:And on a personal note I think it is rather pathetic for anybody to check how anybody else became, brig, general, marshall or whatever.

i am just curious of what a player is doing so well to gain such a high rank.. i was not checking the games to make sure he was not cheating, just happen to come across this when looking..

I normally don't get involved in these threads, but it was brought to our my attention in a clan thread. I want to make sure Arish get's looked into here as well. I was recently in a game with him on Pearl Harbor Game 5890190. It was one of the most frustrating games I've ever played. My "team" sucked, particularly Arish (I attributed it at the time to just a piss poor player, who I resolved never to play with again). Now after this arose, I looked back at that and the other team, of which Rbelgrod was on. There were so many dumb moves on Arish's part, that I thought he was throwing the game then. Now I have no doubt. I know Hidden Dragon pretty well on the site and trust him, so I let it pass. I don't think the others on their team knew anything about it, and I'm not looking for anything to be done there. My only request is that Arish is not forgotten. I actually asked in my frustration:
2009-11-15 21:50:31 - Lubawski: Have you ever had an easier win Chris? How does a 14 spot sit there?
2009-11-15 21:52:08 - Lubawski: And he deployed 4 on Oil D. Pointless. No communication on this side.
He had a 14 spot on their border near a bunch of singles. No attack, no fort, instead, placed where he could do, literally, no damage.
Like I said, I'm not looking for anything except him being held accountable as well and not forgotten.

I have to agree with Krapht, Vampire, and, believe it or not, the.killing.44.......This is amazing. I bet you I cant win 10 in a row on Doodle Earth against the worst person on this site, let alone Mage, who(I'm pretty sure) has the highest point total on doodle earth...... This is so depressing when people resort to this just to keep rank on a site like this.....People like this make me want to barf.....

This will be dealt with shortly. Locked for now.

rbelgrod and Mageplunka have been blocked, given a score reset and are serving a 1 month vacation from the site.

Arish Babil is suspended indefinitely pending an investigation for his involvement in this case.