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Farming on Feudal [Closed]
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:05 am
by Captain_Scarlet
Accused: BoganGod, Owenator, CrashAWC, Kraptone, Tezu, Tdans, etc
The accused are suspected of: Farming on feudal, under the guidelines they have started numerous feudal 5 player games and ?marks join these games
Game number(s): Too many to list
Comments: Under the guidelines this is farming - so are the guidelines wrong or does the map need to be recatorgised?
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:41 am
by Tisha
That has been mentioned over and over again, and there are already thread about it where they should be.. just feeling left out?
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:47 am
by Kotaro
Hey!
I farm'd feudal before it was cool
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:06 am
by Captain_Scarlet
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:11 pm
by Jace22
I have a feeling this is just going to get locked up again, like bogan's accusation of himself
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:38 pm
by ronsizzle
jesus fucking christ...
what is going on with cc?
you see what happens when you overmoderate!!!!!!!!! this forum becomes a laugh!!!! all of these rules have brought in every preschooler to tattle on all the other little kids...
i am almost done with this site!
PUT THAT FUCKING MAP ON THE NO NO LIST FOR NEW RECRUITS ALREADY!!!
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:45 pm
by neanderpaul14
Captain_Scarlet wrote:Accused: BoganGod, Owenator, CrashAWC, Kraptone, Tezu, Tdans, etc
The accused are suspected of: Farming on feudal, under the guidelines they have started numerous feudal 5 player games and ?marks join these games
Enough is enough I say we take 'em out back and beat the crap out of them, or maybe we could just place this map in the no new recruit area where it belongs.
ronc8649 wrote:i am almost done with this site!
Don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass on the way out.
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:55 pm
by jefjef
CC has officially stated that Feudal will be a restricted map. I believe it's scheduled to happen in 2012 due to the huge amount of programming it takes.
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:55 pm
by tdans
neanderpaul14 wrote:Captain_Scarlet wrote:Accused: BoganGod, Owenator, CrashAWC, Kraptone, Tezu, Tdans, etc
The accused are suspected of: Farming on feudal, under the guidelines they have started numerous feudal 5 player games and ?marks join these games
Enough is enough I say we take 'em out back and beat the crap out of them, or maybe we could just place this map in the no new recruit area where it belongs.
HAHAHAHAAH try it
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:13 pm
by ronsizzle
neanderpaul......
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:36 pm
by darkangelsguy205
Jace22 wrote:I have a feeling this is just going to get locked up again, like bogan's accusation of himself
same
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:49 pm
by Jace22
jefjef wrote:CC has officially stated that Feudal will be a restricted map. I believe it's scheduled to happen in 2012 due to the huge amount of programming it takes.
I don't see why it would take 3 years to put 1 map on the restricted map list
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:56 pm
by darkangelsguy205
Jace22 wrote:jefjef wrote:CC has officially stated that Feudal will be a restricted map. I believe it's scheduled to happen in 2012 due to the huge amount of programming it takes.
I don't see why it would take 3 years to put 1 map on the restricted map list
it is hard but they shouldount do this they should just make it a map where new recruits cant play (i dont know if you guys where talking about that)
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:00 pm
by ETROPAL
I believe that one
Member create multiple accounts to join games feudal
all this since kraphtone is caught farmer
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:01 pm
by Tisha
darkangelsguy205 wrote:Jace22 wrote:jefjef wrote:CC has officially stated that Feudal will be a restricted map. I believe it's scheduled to happen in 2012 due to the huge amount of programming it takes.
I don't see why it would take 3 years to put 1 map on the restricted map list
it is hard but they shouldount do this they should just make it a map where new recruits cant play (i dont know if you guys where talking about that)
read what you quoted and you might know what they are talking about..
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:16 pm
by neanderpaul14
Jace22 wrote:jefjef wrote:CC has officially stated that Feudal will be a restricted map. I believe it's scheduled to happen in 2012 due to the huge amount of programming it takes.
I don't see why it would take 3 years to put 1 map on the restricted map list
Ummmmm........
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:17 pm
by Captain_Scarlet
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:43 pm
by JCKing
Hey CS,
Why don't you join those games then. Honestly those guys may be farming but people like you can stop them.
Also just for your information
tdans definitely is not a farmer, he loves feudal. But I don't know about the others.
Couple Reasons:
1) Feudal Games can easily be won by New Recruits, I've seen it done before.
2) Why don't rankers join? It's not the Game Starters fault if New Recruits join. It only becomes farming if they systematically drop the game if a ranker joins, which none of the listed do.
3) This comes back to you, if u have a problem why don't u get a few of your buddies to join up those games?
It's not that hard to stop, it's that people like YOU choose not to join them b/c YOU know by the time YOU join the other players games they'll be too good at it. So YOU would prefer to stop others from gaining points off a map they like, with out having to waste YOUR points.
I know you'll make up a whole bunch of Bull Crap reasons why it's farming. But honestly if you're honest with yourself, it's because people like YOU choose not to join. If you wanna change that find a group of people to join them, make a little clan with yourselves. You know some people may be farming the map. But people like tdans love feudal, I love feudal and would love to play more on that map, but b/c people like YOU don't join, I'd get accused of farming, hence I only have 2 games going on that map.
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:58 pm
by neanderpaul14
JCKing wrote:Hey CS,
Why don't you join those games then. Honestly those guys may be farming but people like you can stop them.
Also just for your information
tdans definitely is not a farmer, he loves feudal. But I don't know about the others.
Couple Reasons:
1) Feudal Games can easily be won by New Recruits, I've seen it done before.
2) Why don't rankers join? It's not the Game Starters fault if New Recruits join. It only becomes farming if they systematically drop the game if a ranker joins, which none of the listed do.
3) This comes back to you, if u have a problem why don't u get a few of your buddies to join up those games?
It's not that hard to stop, it's that people like YOU choose not to join them b/c YOU know by the time YOU join the other players games they'll be too good at it. So YOU would prefer to stop others from gaining points off a map they like, with out having to waste YOUR points.
I know you'll make up a whole bunch of Bull Crap reasons why it's farming. But honestly if you're honest with yourself, it's because people like YOU choose not to join. If you wanna change that find a group of people to join them, make a little clan with yourselves. You know some people may be farming the map. But people like tdans love feudal, I love feudal and would love to play more on that map, but b/c people like YOU don't join, I'd get accused of farming, hence I only have 2 games going on that map.
Ummmmm......Hey JC you missed the point of Scarlet's post she was saying that Feudal should be placed on the no play list for new recruits, and then all these spurious accusations of farming on Feudal would come to an end.
Captain_Scarlet wrote:Comments: Under the guidelines this is farming - so are the guidelines wrong or does the map need to be recatorgised?
Read and understand an
entire post before attacking it.
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:35 pm
by JCKing
Wat I'm saying is that list is for games that CAN NOT by any way be won by New Recruits that's what I'm saying. Feudal games have been won by New Recruits, b/c the map is not a hard concept to figure out. And again it goes back to, there would be no problem if people actually JOINED the games. That is my point.
I knew what I read by CS but I've read all the other stuff. People Cry Foul, even if Foul is not due. And those people choose not to join the games yet whine when New Recruits join them. I'm sorry I just don't see how people can whine, b/c they're hypocrites, they whine about New Recruits joining, well for Pete's sake if you're going to whine, frickin join the Feudal games yourself. I mean I've seen enough whiners about feudal "farming" that if each one joined, there would be 0-Zilch-Nada-Nine (alright I think you get the point there) Problem of people getting a whole bunch of New Recruits.
Sorry about pointing out CS in the post. I was just responding to everything I've read before as well. And again the list to prohibit New Recruits from joining is for Maps that in no way can be won by a New Recruit, and Feudal can't be categorized like that, b/c I've seen NR win...
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:56 pm
by HaireWolf1
I start a lot of feudal games on here...I also join a lot of feudal games...I never base my joining or starting a feudal game based on who sits at the table but I just really enjoy the feudal map. I got accused once of having multis that were ? because so many of them joined the feudal games I started. I have never and will never have multis. I have played with the players in question many times in feudal and have found that all of them just really love the map as I do. I don't put myself in the same level of play as these are very good players.
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:57 pm
by Tisha
the list isn't about whether a new recruit can win or not.. of course they can. it's about the winning percent of the new recruits games on the map.
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:16 pm
by anonymus
Tisha wrote:the list isn't about whether a new recruit can win or not.. of course they can. it's about the winning percent of the new recruits games on the map.
well maybe thats why they shouldnt play feudal 4-5-6 people-games if a major posts them? i dont know what it is but atleast 60% of the feudal muliplayer standards you post fills with new recruits and lowranks.. so maybe just a sign that warns ? "if you join this map you will probably loose unless the "random" dice takes pity on you against the big bad major/hat/bird"
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:25 pm
by JCKing
That is true. But then why don't rankers join?
I mean there are so many people whining about people "farming" on feudal. Why don't they join? Problem solved right there, if all the people that were crabbing about the so called "farming" on feudal, actually joined them. There would be no problems now would there?
I really haven't seen a response to what I've repeatedly said. Which I just stated again. If people were to JOIN the games, rather than whining about the "farming" there would be no problem. There in lies the problem though, the people that whine, are afraid for themselves of getting farmed.
If people are honest with themselves, and others for that matter. The reason they don't join the feudal games, is because people like tdans have gotten so good at them, and know how to play them that rather than risking their own points, they'd rather whine about it.
For Example: I wouldn't join tdans games because it's almost a guaranteed loss for the following reason:
1) I suck at sequential
2) I'm worse than tdans and would prefer not to risk my own points
So then instead of joining the games, b/c tdans is better than me on those settings, and I don't join b/c of that. New Recruits join instead. So since I can't beat him and won't join b/c of that, he's gaining points of New Recruits which by some is classified as "farming", but I don't want him to get high ranked, so instead of trying to play him and getting better, I'll just report him for "farming".
When in actuality this is not farming, it's a classical version of whimp, because I don't want to join. And it keeps going, it's not just me that doesn't want to join, it's everyone doesn't want to join (except a select few, and they tend to only join a couple of games). That's why he gets stuck with ?'s in his games, but if you notice he will have some decently ranked players in his games as well, yet he doesn't shy away from those, he plays them as well.
And to further this, even then if this map were to be banned from New Recruits it isn't gonna matter. Those New Recruits will get a rank after 5 games, and then join the feudal, hence people like tdans will still get accused of "farming". Just in a different way that is, he'll get accused of "FARMING" LOW RANKERS!!!. But wait so basically farming is happening no matter what? Alright so to fix this lets limit the feudal map to only speed games, so no 24hr. But what about the freemiums? They won't get to play then. Basically anything and everything will be classified as some sort of "farming" and that is my point. The only maps that won't be classified as farming are ones that are classic style maps.
Re: Farming on Feudal
Posted:
Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:28 pm
by JCKing
Anonymus,
That idea is amazing. It's not that hard to get a pop up that says, if you join this style you will most likely lose. Not sure how to limit the message to only new recruits put this in the suggs and bugs though. This would make it so one the new recruits know what they're getting into. This could make it so we don't have to have that block on the maps for new recruits. To further this, there are plenty of strategies, make a link to that page on the pop up.