Conquer Club

Accused:
gefmos
tallguy29111

The accused are suspected of:
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number:
Game 5822986

Comments:
In Round Nine Yellow eliminated Pink, but then only had four cards afterwards: preventing a mid-cash. I seized an opportunity and cashed, killed yellow, cashed again and then deployed stacks around the bonuses I'd received as a result. I also had five cards and would have cashed next turn to win the game. The bonuses I held were South America, Europe and Australia.

The issue arose when Red, gefmos, decided to simply do as much damage as possible to me without cashing. He took all of South America and Africa, leaving me with very few troops. As someone with a respectable rank I would not expect him to make stupid moves like Yellow did. The result of his actions was incredibly clear, and Green,tallguy29111, proceeded to finish me off without even needing to cash. Obviously he then went on to win the game.

I believe this is a case of Secret Diplomacy because I cannot see any rationale behind Red's moves, and he's a good enough player to understand the consequences of his moves. Also, neither of them responded in Game Chat or to Wall posts. On top of that, Red foed me as soon as I questioned his actions.

Gefmos has a history of questionable suicidal type tactics. Kinda a strategy of his. Doubt secret diplomacy. Just poor tactics.

ALTHOUGH he does invite Tallguy to private games.

5791698 & 5791699 private pw jef
by gefmos
on Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:19 pm

Interesting choice of passwords too.

jefjef wrote: 5791698 & 5791699 private pw jef
by gefmos
on Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:19 pm

He does that to anyone who's online playing speed games with over 1600 points.

~

Interesting to know he often uses suicide tactics though. Maybe something will happen.

Gefmos is one of my personal CC heroes, it is a pity that he refused to stop spamming my wall with invites to games. Otherwise I would still enjoy playing him today. I doubt that he indulges in secret diplomacy as he has yet to discover the pm function. Did you check the wall of the co-accused?

BoganGod wrote:Gefmos is one of my personal CC heroes, it is a pity that he refused to stop spamming my wall with invites to games. Otherwise I would still enjoy playing him today. I doubt that he indulges in secret diplomacy as he has yet to discover the pm function. Did you check the wall of the co-accused?

Yeah but there was nothing incriminating. I posted on tallguy29111's wall asking him straight out if there was any secret diplomacy going on between him and gefmos, and I stated that is how it looked to me. I never got a reply.

Somehow I think there is more to this story... "leaving me with few men" sounds like he went to kill you and missed. I have played a few times with Gefmos and never had a problem.

Bruceswar wrote:Somehow I think there is more to this story... "leaving me with few men" sounds like he went to kill you and missed. I have played a few times with Gefmos and never had a problem.

It was obvious he wasn't trying to kill me. First of all, he didn't cash. Second, he still had some stacks after taking my bonuses. He's usually a good player, so I'm sure he'd have known beforehand whether or not he had a chance at killing me, and it was clear he didn't.

But he did cash... Log says he did...

2009-10-27 07:31:47 - gefmos received 3 troops for 8 regions
2009-10-27 07:31:54 - gefmos cashed in a group of N3, E7, and F1 worth 35 troops

Bruceswar wrote:But he did cash... Log says he did...

2009-10-27 07:31:47 - gefmos received 3 troops for 8 regions
2009-10-27 07:31:54 - gefmos cashed in a group of N3, E7, and F1 worth 35 troops

So he did: my mistake.

Even so, why would he not say anything about it when I asked him. Why did he foe me, and why did tallguy29111 also not respond?

some people do not use chat.... simple as that.. and some do not wish to talk once they have just made a bad play or missed on dice.

Bruceswar wrote:some people do not use chat.... simple as that..

It was a wall post... And gefmos uses his wall all the time.

DUALITY you seem very paranoid especialy since you had what you thought was a win, but none the less...because others don't chat or respond to your wall post the something is suspect? Ohhhh Poor You! Nobody has to respond to you for anything or explain why they play the way they do. There is nothing against a player playing however he/she wants and for whatever reason or not they want. Most players here don't chat much and you were probably an azz in your game play like always.....BTW did you get rid of your other ID's or is that what pissed you off that he probably be you and one of your other ID's. 612 games in 18 day = complete and active = 34 games a day, get a life. It's funny how when players lose they turn to the secret diplomacy thing and whine immediately that it's others fault. Grow the F up. Boo Hoo Hooo you didn't get your way, so turn to the forums for kleenex and have others join in your paranoia. MAN UP SISSY PANTY BOY YOU LOST

wartspy wrote:DUALITY you seem very paranoid especialy since you had what you thought was a win, but none the less...because others don't chat or respond to your wall post the something is suspect? Ohhhh Poor You! Nobody has to respond to you for anything or explain why they play the way they do. There is nothing against a player playing however he/she wants and for whatever reason or not they want. Most players here don't chat much and you were probably an azz in your game play like always.....BTW did you get rid of your other ID's or is that what pissed you off that he probably be you and one of your other ID's. 612 games in 18 day = complete and active = 34 games a day, get a life. It's funny how when players lose they turn to the secret diplomacy thing and whine immediately that it's others fault. Grow the F up. Boo Hoo Hooo you didn't get your way, so turn to the forums for kleenex and have others join in your paranoia. MAN UP SISSY PANTY BOY YOU LOST

wartspy wrote:DUALITY you seem very paranoid especialy since you had what you thought was a win, but none the less...because others don't chat or respond to your wall post the something is suspect? Ohhhh Poor You! Nobody has to respond to you for anything or explain why they play the way they do. There is nothing against a player playing however he/she wants and for whatever reason or not they want. Most players here don't chat much and you were probably an azz in your game play like always.....BTW did you get rid of your other ID's or is that what pissed you off that he probably be you and one of your other ID's. 612 games in 18 day = complete and active = 34 games a day, get a life. It's funny how when players lose they turn to the secret diplomacy thing and whine immediately that it's others fault. Grow the F up. Boo Hoo Hooo you didn't get your way, so turn to the forums for kleenex and have others join in your paranoia. MAN UP SISSY PANTY BOY YOU LOST

Multi-check on this guy at the same time please?

LMAO doesn't like a post so immediately he wants a multi check on me LOL...like I said Duality comes to the forums looking for kleenex to get his way. Those that accuse others most are usually guilty themselves. So I would look into Duality; I have a list of several of his games in question....he has a network of aliases, there should be no doubt.....34 games a day, he needs a psychiatrist for several problem 1.) he has no life other than CC 2.) multi identies 3.) he needs help with telling the truth 4.) his gross paranoia when he loses and whines

wartspy wrote:Most players here don't chat much and you were probably an azz in your game play like always.....

It's funny how when players lose they turn to the secret diplomacy thing and whine immediately that it's others fault.

Somebody help me out. Did I miss something? This guy has been here for a day and does not have a finished game, yet he know all this?

wartspy wrote:LMAO doesn't like a post

Yeah, no.

shaneback...yes, I know all this that quickly, does it take a finished game to know this? or how about this.....since I dont remember my password after having been a member here a few years, and 2200 games, (it was auto saved on my last puter), I since changed my ISP and bought a new puter, therefore I now have a new e-mail addy...reason for rejoining with new ID,,,,,,any other brilliant comments you have to add to the post or are you trying to drag this off topic for said subject forum, or are you just trying to add uselessness to this subject because you have nothing of substance or on topic to add to this forum. if it is not on topic or adding substance STFU, or is this forum the only friend you are capable of having

wartspy wrote:shaneback...yes, I know all this that quickly, does it take a finished game to know this? or how about this.....since I dont remember my password after having been a member here a few years, and 2200 games, (it was auto saved on my last puter), I since changed my ISP and bought a new puter, therefore I now have a new e-mail addy...reason for rejoining with new ID,,,,,,any other brilliant comments you have to add to the post or are you trying to drag this off topic for said subject forum, or are you just trying to add uselessness to this subject because you have nothing of substance or on topic to add to this forum. if it is not on topic or adding substance STFU, or is this forum the only friend you are capable of having

Yes, sadly this forum is my only friend... Will you and your "lost" account be my friend?

I simply asked a question about your credentials as a CC expert for 2 reasons.

1. You posted in the thread outright attacking someone you have never played a game with (I mean the wartspy account)
2. You have a day old account (I mean the wartspy account)

Oh and you accuse someone else of having multiple accounts

Thanks for answering my question, now I will STFU.

EDIT- Thanks for posting this on my wall too, Ok now I will STFU

Checking this out.

I don't see any secret diplomacy here. it does look like he went for the kill and didn't make it, and didn't stop until it was to late. I will mark this cleared.

wartspy is busted.

Thanks for checking it out.