Kidpat, cohorts [Blocked, Busted, Score Reset]

[InsomniaRed]

Nice win Cisco

[cicero]

And the "Wall of Shame" would look good in a more prominent location as well.

Where is it at the moment glide?
I have to admit I didn't know there was one.

Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

[InsomniaRed]

And the "Wall of Shame" would look good in a more prominent location as well.

Where is it at the moment glide?
I have to admit I didn't know there was one.

Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17506&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=Wall+of+Shame

[cisco2001]

Here is some more evidence for the hunters:

KIDPAT missed a turn....
So did Sres and Dinamitebla...all in games together and separate

Coincidence? I don't think so.

[Scott-Land]

Here is some more evidence for the hunters:

KIDPAT missed a turn....
So did Sres and Dinamitebla...all in games together and separthate

Coincidence? I don't think so.

Not a good point considering, half of CC missed their turns from yesterday until today with the site being down

Not saying that they aren't multis, just merely pointing out the fact that in this case it may be indeed a coincidence.

[Tk 421]

Possibly A few more

ottimari
*STAR WARS*
ciancama
fbonsignori

There are a few games

[Bruceswar]

Possibly A few more


ciancama


There are a few games

Ciancama has played in many games with me. He is legit. Nothing to see here move along.

[Frop]

Possibly A few more

ottimari
*STAR WARS*
ciancama
fbonsignori

There are a few games

I've looked at these players as well, but as far as I could see they were not involved with KIDPAT, Sres, heyday and tasdevil. I don't think every Italian player on CC is in on this.

[cisco2001]

Here is some more evidence for the hunters:

KIDPAT missed a turn....
So did Sres and Dinamitebla...all in games together and separthate

Coincidence? I don't think so.

Not a good point considering, half of CC missed their turns from yesterday until today with the site being down

Not saying that they aren't multis, just merely pointing out the fact that in this case it may be indeed a coincidence.

Sorry. They missed a turn after the site was active. I happened to notice because KIDPAT was down to one army in one of my games and he just skipped his turn.

[cisco2001]

Frop is right. Let's not muddy the waters with a bunch of Italian players that have played one game with KIDPAT. I think there is enough evidence to bust this cheater.

[Frop]

Frop is right. Let's not muddy the waters with a bunch of Italian players that have played one game with KIDPAT. I think there is enough evidence to bust this cheater.

Cisco, could you perhaps update the topic and the first post of the thread with the 4 players in question? KIDPAT alone does not reflect the gravity of the situation.

[cisco2001]

Frop is right. Let's not muddy the waters with a bunch of Italian players that have played one game with KIDPAT. I think there is enough evidence to bust this cheater.

Cisco, could you perhaps update the topic and the first post of the thread with the 4 players in question? KIDPAT alone does not reflect the gravity of the situation.

Considering the length of this thread, I think that it's a good idea.

In short:

Previous to this thread KIDPAT had been blocked from playing Heyday as it was very evident that Heyday was facilitating wins for KIDPAT.

After further examination it was obvious that KIDPAT had other resources besides Heyday. To date these are the ones that have been found :

Dinamitebla
Sres
Tasdevil

and Heyday

Much evidence has been listed throughout this thread for those just starting to read from this posting. All of the evidence provided by my and other contributors shows clear and intentional cheating. In other words, this is not coincidence or even secret alliance. This is a case of a sub par player that gains his points by cheating in PUBLIC games. As a result of his cheating, he has climbed the rank ladder and is considered an elite player. To the extent that he's routinely invited to play in private games with the highest ranked players on this site. It goes without saying that his win percentage in that venue, without his multis, is extremely low. Regardless, he quickly makes those points up in public games with his multis.

Again, if you are new to this thread, please read all of the evidence presented throughout this thread and you will see a very clear picture of KIDPAT's cheating.

This guy has literally stolen points from all of us and has not even come to his own defense. There has not been ONE explanation from ANY of the accused.

There is no doubt that he has come by his points unfairly and deserves to be punished.

[Yvgni]

This is all so clear, was so clear from day 1. I honestly don't understand why there should be the slightest doubt that he is a blatant (and poor) cheater who should be busted forthwith.

And that's without having access to the administration of this site, which should be able to support this information with even more data.

Of course I also don't understand why the administrators of this site would wish the money of someone who is such a blatant cheater, and I'd ban him permanently, not just take away his rating and his premium status. Who wants to play in an environment rampant with cheaters who are allowed to get away with it? It's just so thirteen year oldish.

There are plenty of sites on the internet which don't allow multiple registering from the same ISP. Why can't this be one of them?

[Frop]

This is all so clear, was so clear from day 1. I honestly don't understand why there should be the slightest doubt that he is a blatant (and poor) cheater who should be busted forthwith.

And that's without having access to the administration of this site, which should be able to support this information with even more data.

Of course I also don't understand why the administrators of this site would wish the money of someone who is such a blatant cheater, and I'd ban him permanently, not just take away his rating and his premium status. Who wants to play in an environment rampant with cheaters who are allowed to get away with it? It's just so thirteen year oldish.

There are plenty of sites on the internet which don't allow multiple registering from the same ISP. Why can't this be one of them?

Completely agree with you, I'm not so sure either why the cheaters get off so lightly after being busted. For instance the leagues in competitive (PC) gaming adopt far harder stances on cheaters - they get permanently banned for a set period of time (ranging from 3 to 12 months given the violation). If they return within this period they will be penalized yet again (we used to have lifetime bans years ago, but they softened it up unfortunately).

The problem though is that you could never completely get rid of cheaters due to the anonymity of the internet. There are still too many ways to conceal your identity and/or assume a new one (using proxies to hide your IP is just one of many).

[TheTrueNorth]

Kidpat & Sres

116 - 8 player games together
62 wins

a little beyond obvious

[TheTrueNorth]

finally had a chance to read the entire thread.
I've called him out on it in the game we,re currently playing & i'm quite interested in seeing what kind of response i get.
my first thought was to search out his games and post a link to this thread making other players aware of who they're up against, but the problem will be the more infamous Kidpat becomes the more players may follow his example. Thats why the site administrators must act & ban him now.

is this not on the sign-up page

Warning: Having multiple accounts is considered cheating. We routinely scan for multiple accounts and offending members will be banned from Conquer Club.
I will only have one account

I know I'm new here but maybe someone could point out just what does get you banned here?

[KIDPAT]

After so many pages of forum it is correct that i write the end of this endless querelle
if you allow I would like me to specify some points:

1-I have never used multi-accounts, you can check all the e-mails.

2 - The accounts of Tasdevil, Dinamitebla and Heyday are of friends that occasionally play to Conquerclub and of which i had the pws, when they was not present I admit to have used their accounts and to have somehow modified the course of yours games

3 - Sres is not a my friend , we are known on this site, also because Italians are not many, we have played together often, in team too, but we are not particularly favorite , clear, now is easy "to shoot on the pianist" now and to make to seem all the games of the forgeries...

4 - In the private games I have played alone always

5- I played 7 yrs in the Risk2 league on zone.com, maibe i'm not the best player but i'm not a newbie

6- ...at the end of this long investigation, what will make the next week Wolker Texas Ranger if not having to check all my games ?

That's all

sry for my english

[Frop]

1-I have never used multi-accounts, you can check all the e-mails.

Registering with different email addresses won't fool the admins.

2 - The accounts of Tasdevil, Dinamitebla and Heyday are of friends that occasionally play to Conquerclub and of which i had the pws, when they was not present I admit to have used their accounts and to have somehow modified the course of yours games

Nice admittance of guilt, but 'somehow modified the course of your games' is a severe understatement.

3 - Sres is not a my friend , we are known on this site, also because Italians are not many, we have played together often, in team too, but we are not particularly favorite , clear, now is easy "to shoot on the pianist" now and to make to seem all the games of the forgeries...

He doesn't have to be your lifelong pal, but now we've established you do know eachother quite well.

4 - In the private games I have played alone always

It doesn't show at all, you've won an impressive 3 out of 42 private games.

[cisco2001]

Wow!! He's admitted to having multiple accounts. What else is there? Apparently, it's OK to cheat in public games but not in private games. Which explains why he's only won 2 private games...lol. Now punish this SOB!

[InsomniaRed]

We got what we were looking for before the admins even busted, again.

[Darwins_Bane]

actually...funnily enough...I can't actually check the emails. This is due to the fact that only kidpat has his listed on the site. I have a couple tricks that can suggest guilt or innocence....though I can't prove it for a fact. If Kidpat will find their emails, since they ARE friends, then i can check them and post my findings...otherwise what he said is for naught.

[cisco2001]

Well...all that's left is the formal bust and punishment from the mods. I'm curious to see how long it will take. Anybody want to bet the over/under? I say it will take 6 days. Anybody?

[Frop]

Hard to tell, in some of the 'easier' and more recent threads they bust people within a few days. Now that KIDPAT has admitted some form of guilt I'm sure they'll skip the actual 'investigation' and stick to a simple and probably mild verdict.

[Sres]

pls walker no personal attack!!! U ARE SOB !!!

[cisco2001]

pls walker no personal attack!!! U ARE SOB !!!

Wow! KIDPAT and Sres speak English exactly the same. How strange...

What is he trying to say?