Mystique + Arish Babil, regarding Racial Abuse [busted]

[jefjef]

Just looked at Mystique's wall (I know it's supposed to be private, but it isn't when anyone can look at it) and it seems he does have something against Canadians. I for one grew up in Canada and I take offense to what he said. It's like me saying that all African Americans are lazy no good welfare sucking bums. I am stereotyping them. (I would never say anything derogatory about any race, nationality or anything else as we are all human beings no matter were we come from). Isn't he also flaming in game chat?

Your african anology would be racism. Cuz it segregated a race from the country.

And if you took offense to what was said cuz you grew up in Canada here is something off of a Canadians wall.

Location:
Kan A Duh

Is he being racist against you and himself? HUMOR.. Get some.

[Gypsys Kiss]

So let me get this straight...............its okay to take the piss out of a nationality but not a race. To be zenophobic is humourous, to be homophobic is bigoted. I am allowed to tell a joke about an Irishman Catholic heterosexual but not a Jamaican gay Jew...........the worlds gone fucking mad.......................

[king sam]

This is currently under discussion behind the scenes to get an accurate ruling on this case. Once one is formulated we will post the decision in here and parties involved or bystanders to this thread can open an E-Ticket if they feel the decision made was unjust. Please be patient as we are trying to take all angles and make sure we do the right thing for everyone to continue enjoying the site.

King Sam
"Don't make me hit the button"

[bayblonde]

Accused: MYSTIQUE



The accused are suspected of:

Other: Harrassmeny, intimidation, gender abuse, ethnic abuse



Game number(s):5740245

There seems to be an ongoing abuse from Mystique towards other players please stop him/this, it makes this an unwelcoming place to play. The following is from the chat and as seen he did miss his turn on purpose as he was playing in his other games:

2009-10-13 00:22:12 - Rouan: gla
2009-10-16 13:39:53 - bayblonde: good way to miss your turn on purpose mystique
2009-10-17 18:55:09 - Mystique: You've won 6 games in your life bitch, get some skill before you try to talk to someone like me.
2009-10-17 18:56:41 - Mystique: See that odd symbol that looks like this "%" next to your name. That refers to how many games you win vs. how many games you lose. Is it a coincidence my number is 3 times higher than yours? Yes, no, maybe?
2009-10-19 00:11:08 - Rouan: Nice blue, great way to gain more members for the site. We were all newbies once, give her a break
2009-10-19 00:38:45 - Mystique: Why would I give a crap if more members join the website? If anything we need less people on this site, it attracts too many losers and Canadians.
2009-10-19 00:40:22 - Mystique: There should be a registration test required when people sign up to play, if you're not smart enough you get rejected.

[Snowgun]

Canada is not a race but is an ethnicity, and attacking someones ethnicity
is considered racial profiling.

Nationality =! Ethnicity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group

This is how the slippery slope is formed.

So let me get this straight...............its okay to take the piss out of a nationality but not a race. To be zenophobic is humourous, to be homophobic is bigoted. I am allowed to tell a joke about an Irishman Catholic heterosexual but not a Jamaican gay Jew...........the worlds gone fucking mad........................

Yep. Welcome to the New World Order. Where you can choose anything you want as long as it's this one.

Shit, if only we could label everyone who disparaged the US as racist! Then we could launch a worldwide effort to eliminate these hateful, evil people. Round them up into little groups.....etc.

This stuff isn't black and white (pun unintended), it takes a level of common sense to wade through, and I hope that CC utilizes all of theirs when making any decision...

[TheForgivenOne]

Accused: MYSTIQUE



The accused are suspected of:

Other: Harrassmeny, intimidation, gender abuse, ethnic abuse



Game number(s):Game 5740245

There seems to be an ongoing abuse from Mystique towards other players please stop him/this, it makes this an unwelcoming place to play. The following is from the chat and as seen he did miss his turn on purpose as he was playing in his other games:

2009-10-13 00:22:12 - Rouan: gla
2009-10-16 13:39:53 - bayblonde: good way to miss your turn on purpose mystique
2009-10-17 18:55:09 - Mystique: You've won 6 games in your life bitch, get some skill before you try to talk to someone like me.
2009-10-17 18:56:41 - Mystique: See that odd symbol that looks like this "%" next to your name. That refers to how many games you win vs. how many games you lose. Is it a coincidence my number is 3 times higher than yours? Yes, no, maybe?
2009-10-19 00:11:08 - Rouan: Nice blue, great way to gain more members for the site. We were all newbies once, give her a break
2009-10-19 00:38:45 - Mystique: Why would I give a crap if more members join the website? If anything we need less people on this site, it attracts too many losers and Canadians.
2009-10-19 00:40:22 - Mystique: There should be a registration test required when people sign up to play, if you're not smart enough you get rejected.

fixed

[Bruceswar]

I am not sure what is more funny. The chat or fact dupa and mystique are getting owned after trying to jump 2 low ranks. The 2nd part is rather funny. As for the chat... let it go and just kick his butt. And if you do not wanting him in your games foe list him.

[Tisha]

2009-10-17 18:55:09 - Mystique: You've won 6 games in your life bitch, get some skill before you try to talk to someone like me.


says the one that foes people for winning..

[the.killing.44]

2009-10-17 18:55:09 - Mystique: You've won 6 games in your life bitch, get some skill before you try to talk to someone like me.

Well, it's not like you're winning…

[ronsizzle]

i like blondes from the bay...

[owenshooter]

these threads these guys are starting are ridiculous...-0

[owenshooter]

if they rule in favor of this ridiculous complaint, standby for the closing if Turtle Soup...-0

[khazalid]

how unexpected to find you in here owen... you seem positively irked that anything but sniggering could cause offense.

[Snowgun]

2009-10-19 00:38:45 - Mystique: Why would I give a crap if more members join the website? If anything we need less people on this site, it attracts too many losers and Canadians.

Does anyone else see the humor in this? I mean come on, throwing in canadians is so frickin non-sequitor. It would be like if he said:

"If anything we need less people on this site, it attracts too many losers and Fed Ex employees."

I would expect something of the sort from bogangod

[AAFitz]

2009-10-18 01:43:06 - Mystique: I doubt they know how to read, they all live in Canada. No wonder they are too poor to play this game like regular people. You losers make me sick.

009-10-18 01:44:53 - Mystique: Can I refuse to let cheap poor-players enter my games? Is there a button I can select? It's annoying to have to deal with these welfare-abusers. Get a job and stop mooching off other people you fucking Canadians.


Whether Canadian is a race or not is completely irrevelant, the point is -> for no reasons he is being abusive to others in the game. He also swears too.

well, its relevant to a racial abuse accusation if there is actual racism.

No one is questioning the silliness or the inappropriateness of the chat...at the same time, bigotry and racism are serious charges, and have no place on CC. I fully agree you should not have to deal with such language, and I surely hope you dont take it more personally than punks messing around to get a rise out of you. The question is, is it racism...and in this case, its really a stretch...bigotry...possibly...so the question remains...do you just foe them, or are they warned or something more severe. As another posted, who cares as long as it gets mystique banned...and while personally Im all for that, that doesnt mean its correct.

[turdfingers]

2009-10-19 00:38:45 - Mystique: Why would I give a crap if more members join the website? If anything we need less people on this site, it attracts too many losers and Canadians.

Does anyone else see the humor in this? I mean come on, throwing in canadians is so frickin non-sequitor. It would be like if he said:

"If anything we need less people on this site, it attracts too many losers and Fed Ex employees."

I would expect something of the sort from bogangod

SNOWGUN...........You missed the point: it's an on-going thing with him, perhaps if he said blacks it would differ, or using the N word. You see only humor in what you agrre wth; him using the B word and being rude is okay as well? Glad to know you support this type of behavior. The humor in all this is that you think it funny to be abusive....BTW im not even Canadian and agree with the poster. Actully your statement defines non sequitur. You should learn the definition before using the word as you are illogical at its finest moment. There is no choice in ethnicity hence your arguement must have been passed on from law school drop out or village idiot

[tlau]

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2 complains within few days for the same player.

[owenshooter]

SNOWGUN...........You missed the point: it's an on-going thing with him, perhaps if he said blacks it would differ, or using the N word. You see only humor in what you agrre wth; him using the B word and being rude is okay as well? Glad to know you support this type of behavior. The humor in all this is that you think it funny to be abusive....BTW im not even Canadian and agree with the poster. Actully your statement defines non sequitur. You should learn the definition before using the word as you are illogical at its finest moment. There is no choice in ethnicity hence your arguement must have been passed on from law school drop out or village idiot

if he had said N's it would differ... why? that would actually be RACIST... if he broke it down to a subset of the canadian people, i might agree with you... as it stands now, i just don't see his comments as being that bad. had he said the same thing about americans, i'd laugh...-0

[AAFitz]

Actully your statement defines non sequitur. You should learn the definition before using the word as you are illogical at its finest moment.

I simply found the above post amusing...

If you really think mystique is abusing the chat, and breaking the rules, the best thing to do, would be to look through other games, and find a pattern or trend. If there are multiple games like this, the sheer volume may suggest rules are being broken, but as an individual case, even with the other one, there probably should be more. Obviously someone must be annoyed at this point enough to look through all the games, post the volumes of abuses that may or may not be out there, and make a quality C&A thread. Individually though, this chat is fairly annoying, but could be considered simply trash talk...

find more...they have to be out there....obviously....put them all in one place, and simply make it a compelling case.

And certainly as owen said, this is no way near racist, and even bigotry is a stretch.

[owenshooter]

2 complains within few days for the same player.

so what? codeblue probably has over 100 complaints in his esteemed career here, there is another one about him in the wrong forum right now... what is your point? 2 complaints that are frivolous are not going to change anything. you are going to be told to foe and move on... if you can prove a pattern, you might have a case. but what he said is nowhere near abusive or racist...-0

[codeblue1018]

these threads these guys are starting are ridiculous...-0

SNOWGUN...........You missed the point: it's an on-going thing with him, perhaps if he said blacks it would differ, or using the N word. You see only humor in what you agrre wth; him using the B word and being rude is okay as well? Glad to know you support this type of behavior. The humor in all this is that you think it funny to be abusive....BTW im not even Canadian and agree with the poster. Actully your statement defines non sequitur. You should learn the definition before using the word as you are illogical at its finest moment. There is no choice in ethnicity hence your arguement must have been passed on from law school drop out or village idiot

if he had said N's it would differ... why? that would actually be RACIST... if he broke it down to a subset of the canadian people, i might agree with you... as it stands now, i just don't see his comments as being that bad. had he said the same thing about americans, i'd laugh...-0

Gee Owen, for now on I think people should send you a specific topic for approval before someone makes a post. Your comments on 95% of your posts rip on peoples topics. Nothing like 6,431 useless comments. Feel free to continue; makes you look even better. In fact, go out and meet a girl or something, LOL!. Hysterical!

[AAFitz]

what he said is nowhere near abusive or racist...-0

well abusive, thats certainly arguable, racist, of course not.

[codeblue1018]

how unexpected to find you in here owen... you seem positively irked that anything but sniggering could cause offense.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AMEN!

[ronsizzle]

i cant wait for cc to get back to "suck it up cupcake"

i mean really. these fucking forums suck anymore. people getting offended left and right for what?

a couple of comments in game chat about canadiens? f*ck canada! i am sick of them not having an army thinking we will save their asses.

SUCK IT UP PEOPLE!

this is the internet. who gives a f*ck what someone says to you? why get all bent out of shape?

and to cc staff, and mods. you guys need to tell people to relax, that shit is going to happen. it is people looking at a screen having fun in whatever way they like. this place is getting to be super conservative, and it sucks.

lmfao at all of you losers who let this shit get to you.

[ronsizzle]

i just went to go look at chat, and i forgot that i have mystique foed.

thats right, i dont have to deal with people i dont like cuz i use that function that cc gave me properly.

i personally hate mystique, but this claim is ridiculous.

these claims are coming out of the woodwork like crazy lately. ridiculous stuff.