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Re: b00060

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:03 pm

This is the last time I explain.

The point of the game is to win. 99% of the time, you attack others in order to win. I assume we agree with that.

The issue I have is that when you're in a position where it's impossible to win, but you suicide into the leader of the game, just to stop them from winning.

If you think the latter is acceptable, then that's fine. Our back and forth can stop, it's pointless.

I'm asking for this to be ruled on so that a precedent can be set. Then I know going forward, whether I am allowed to play games with my goal being to stop certain players from winning those games and/or tournaments, instead of trying to win myself.

If there is no punishment to b00060, I'm fine with that. Then I know I can do the same to the multitude of people I dislike and there is no way I can be punished for it. I'm absolutely okay with that.
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Re: b00060

Postby zeus111 on Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:27 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:This is the last time I explain.

The point of the game is to win. 99% of the time, you attack others in order to win. I assume we agree with that.

The issue I have is that when you're in a position where it's impossible to win, but you suicide into the leader of the game, just to stop them from winning.

If you think the latter is acceptable, then that's fine. Our back and forth can stop, it's pointless.

I'm asking for this to be ruled on so that a precedent can be set. Then I know going forward, whether I am allowed to play games with my goal being to stop certain players from winning those games and/or tournaments, instead of trying to win myself.

If there is no punishment to b00060, I'm fine with that. Then I know I can do the same to the multitude of people I dislike and there is no way I can be punished for it. I'm absolutely okay with that.



your asking to limit a players ability to attack in a game were attacking is how its played . your asking to limit a members given right regardless on a games out come . you want to set a precedent here again to limit a player from playing as they see fit . whats next caff no attacking in last 5 rounds or determining a winner of a game before the games end .if the game here does not show you a game isnt over till its over nothing ever will. last round attacks often decide a game . no way we can ask our member not to attack as they see fit .

again the reason you lost is not protecting the troops so blue attacked as he saw fit . why should a site change in any way to accommodate poor play or great play . its your fault for loosing this . we have all lost to this im sure it happens so often in baltics speeders and is how i learned to expect to lose exposed troops more so how to protect them in limit trench settings . yet when it happened to you its lets change this up precedent must be set ect , lindax took time to call you out for doing the same thing .

you are frustrated im positive but lets call this for what it is piss poor play and a childish rant when a member took your game away as you put it but clearly it was your game till round 19 when poor planning cost you the 20 round game . we cant expect our members to play with attacking being limited in any way . how in a foggy game could this precedent be applied in a 100 50 20 round trench game ? no way to determine who ya cant attack in the later rounds changing the out come would be a nightmare to determine .

changing tournaments to include foes could solve this but the events would never fill . you got stung for sure but i will 100 percent say it made you better for it . no way you will expose troops in a round limit trench settings again so take the positive side and move on. also took great play to get ya that far i cant take that away just a tiny tweak in game play and you had it .


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Re: b00060

Postby b00060 on Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:37 pm

If he was such a lock to win and I suicided into him, then why do I have more men than him in the end? Caffeine you are a fucking asshole, I had more men than you in the last round, because you killed it off both of us, neither of us was going to win because of your unbalanced play. You are a fucking whinny little asshole. You ruined the game for both of us and then act like you were going to win and I caused you to lose. No you dumb ass, you sealed that fate for both of us, otherwise you would have had more men than me stupid shit!
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Re: b00060

Postby ConfederateSS on Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:25 am

IcePack wrote:I'm not convinced the case in your OP and this one are the same. In that case, Confed attacked seemingly at random the leader bcuz they deadbeated and to punish you, which was deemed wrong. He also took actions against someone in that game that were unrelated to the game at hand (he attacked x because of issues in other games)

However in this case, it wasn't a random targeting just to punish you. I believe (could be wrong) similar cases in the past have also happened where two people got into it, and someone suicided into the other to keep the person who ruined the game for them from winning. The statement was something akin to "this is part of diplomacy, don't make enemies that can keep you from winning".

In the confederate case, KA has the following to say:
This still doesn't prohibit people from making attacks to whoever they want to in a game. Most of you have this set of thinking that just because you have the lead in a round limit game, and it's getting in the last round, the win is already assured. We all think that whoever who has no or little chance in winning making an attack on the leader should be punished. This is not always in black & white and we always need to evaluate the situation and take it from there. It is in the nature of the game to get attacked by an opponent. It happens. It's a game.


Just because you were leading the game, doesn't mean its rest assured to be yours.
Honestly not going to spend a ton of time (and don't care the outcome) so people who care more about it can argue, I just don't see them as apples to apples cases. Here b00060 attacks the one not to keep you from winning, but because you're the one he views as the reason he didn't win himself. Not suiciding, just leveraging his remaining troops to keep the person he didn't like in the game from winning.

IMO, in this situation it would be ok (unless he continued to do so in other games as continued punishment that were unrelated to the current game), since he's responding to actions taken in the actual current game.

---------Not really....I was just dealing out some Frontier Justice on Macattacker...Since we are reminiscing...or like I like to call it...
---------The case..."Frontier Justice on Macattacker,Caff got caught in the crossfire."
.....I didn't know what I did to Caff until after the fact...I had tunnel vision on Macattacker....As in my last post of that case...The Time Line.......He wrote on my wall... something as stupid as he did here... really.??wishing cancer/death on b00060 and any of his kids. :roll: ...I ersased my wall...but The General Gongrats post is still there...that he posted...It was after those posts..when He let me know I had cost him the tourney..I wrote in ...Gen.Congrats and in game chat..messing with him...I had know Idea before hand...I was just going after a deadbeater....As Ice said, not the same...thing...
......I have no doubles,trips..etc...medals...I run my armies and my armies alone...I don't really play in tourneys...I can't imagine why I don't like playing in them.. :roll: ...I did go back to The Great War... because I decided to help write some Tourneys to help out...So I played,I did have fun in Tourneys with Wayward Day ;) ...I am glad I helped out...
-----I found other ways to deal out some Frontier Justice against Code_RED..in Febenarino 2016..and Came back next year To win Febenarino 2017.. =D> .....In his mind he knows the truth and in his ❤️..Caff knows I had no malice twords him or diliberetly tried to cost him a tourney win...I think he entered a report...on me..on Oct 21st ,2015....after I was messing with him ,for what he posted on my wall and Gen.Congrats..(timeline)...because on Oct.16th,2015,page 13 of Closed CandA.reports...nolefan5311..reported Caff for suiciding...He was probably a little rattled at the time...
-------As for this case....Both b00060 and Caff ....They are both 2 Great players and Class acts in C.C.Land...Things will blow over in a couple of weeks...Things will be back to normal... :D O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:) ...Look on the bright side Caff...you could have been playing with The Greatest Cheater Gang ..in C.C. History.... :D ...I am not mentioning their names...They don't deserve to be mentioned...Funny thing is,I think this tournament's games counted twords The Oct.chall...Where The Cheaters were exposed... :D
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Re: b00060

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:53 am

b00060 wrote:If he was such a lock to win and I suicided into him, then why do I have more men than him in the end? Caffeine you are a fucking asshole, I had more men than you in the last round, because you killed it off both of us, neither of us was going to win because of your unbalanced play. You are a fucking whinny little asshole. You ruined the game for both of us and then act like you were going to win and I caused you to lose. No you dumb ass, you sealed that fate for both of us, otherwise you would have had more men than me stupid shit!

You realise lying doesn't really work when I posted screenshots of the last four rounds right?

I can understand why you have a spiteful and vindictive attitude. 11yrs playing this game and not one notable achievement, it makes sense.
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Re: b00060

Postby Mad777 on Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:57 am

stop the anger game folks, this is never helping...

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Re: b00060

Postby b00060 on Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:59 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:
b00060 wrote:If he was such a lock to win and I suicided into him, then why do I have more men than him in the end? Caffeine you are a fucking asshole, I had more men than you in the last round, because you killed it off both of us, neither of us was going to win because of your unbalanced play. You are a fucking whinny little asshole. You ruined the game for both of us and then act like you were going to win and I caused you to lose. No you dumb ass, you sealed that fate for both of us, otherwise you would have had more men than me stupid shit!

You realise lying doesn't really work when I posted screenshots of the last four rounds right?

I can understand why you have a spiteful and vindictive attitude. 11yrs playing this game and not one notable achievement, it makes sense.


Hey dumbshit, anyone can look at the game as it is over and see I had more men then you in the end. I had 38 and you had 35, so tell me how you were going to win again? You are a stupid dumbass, stop your crying! I was the one that was robbed!
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Re: b00060

Postby zeus111 on Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:20 am

i can see why b0060 would be angry being talked to that way . he played a game as he saw fit and has been put in here for it . caff now wants to set precedent as he puts it to change our game stopping a players right to play as they wish . the game is no ones till it ends and as players we can attack who we want when we want .

this case is over nothing more then a player who lost a game they figured was in the bag . butt hurt and not a single current rule broken comes here to cry out about the way he was attacked . he then proceeded to verbally smash b0060 for doing what he did to him all game ATTACK back . posts the game and inside we can see the childish rant first hand and its ugly .

we can also see that has done this to lindax in the past more im sure .the game has few rules i see no need to change things up regarding a players right to attack whoever whenever they wish regardless of position in a game . its simply the design of the game risk. to even suggest we set a rule that a games determined before the last rounds of attacks are over and then limit the way players can attack in that round is just simply as foolish as this whole case.

only violation here is caffs game chat and feel strongly he should be warned to prohibit hate speech in our games

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Re: b00060

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:58 am

If you want to make a separate report about me feel free.

You fail to realise the difference between attacking a player to win, and preventing someone else from winning a tournament by suiciding troops purely out of spite when you can't win yourself. Or, you see the difference and think the latter is acceptable.

I asked Lindax to provide links for his instance and he hasn't yet done so. Not sure why you're quoting it as 100% fact.

As I said before, let's just wait and see what the ruling is.
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Re: b00060

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:34 pm

Dukasaur wrote:"the whambulance"

:lol:

Zeus made a funny!

Btw, no. He copied a funny from someone else.
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Re: b00060

Postby zeus111 on Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:27 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:If you want to make a separate report about me feel free.

You fail to realise the difference between attacking a player to win, and preventing someone else from winning a tournament by suiciding troops purely out of spite when you can't win yourself. Or, you see the difference and think the latter is acceptable.

I asked Lindax to provide links for his instance and he hasn't yet done so. Not sure why you're quoting it as 100% fact.

As I said before, let's just wait and see what the ruling is.


caught ya reading my posts ahhahhaaaaa . you fail to realize a player can attack do as they wish caff . whats written above is just blah blah blah. players are not limited to any such thing . i take all at face value till proven otherwise lindax reputation is good no need to take time to lie m8.
you got attacked in a late round of a game . you cant stop anyone from attacking you in a game of risk but we can stop this

2020-01-15 12:28:06 - iAmCaffeine: this is why everyone thinks you're a cunt :o :o
2020-01-15 12:28:13 - iAmCaffeine: and you've never gotten into any half decent clan
2020-01-15 12:28:29 - iAmCaffeine: just make cunt moves like that which dont benefit you :shock: :shock:
2020-01-15 12:28:33 - iAmCaffeine: sad little cunt :o :o :o
2020-01-15 12:28:59 - iAmCaffeine: hope you choke on cancer and your kids, if they're unfortunate enough to exist, never say goodbye :sick: :sick:
2020-01-15 12:33:58 - iAmCaffeine: its not even one game its the whole fucking tournament win
2020-01-15 12:34:08 - iAmCaffeine: just 'cause you're salty about not being able to win yourself?
2020-01-15 12:34:12 - iAmCaffeine: you're a vindictive oxygen thief
2020-01-15 12:34:40 - iAmCaffeine: played this game for over 11yrs and achieved absolutely nothing of note
2020-01-15 12:34:43 - iAmCaffeine: holy shit what a waste of time
2020-01-16 06:38:24 - iAmCaffeine: yes dude attacking you during the game is literally what you're supposed to do :ugeek: :ugeek: but according to caff ya cant attack him/leader as u cant win the game so you cant attack :lol: :lol: :lol:
2020-01-16 06:38:40 - iAmCaffeine: you're just a vindictive cunt :shock: :shock:

c bombs meh but to wish someone choke on cancer is pure hate speech and un called for.

if site rules attacking a player is forbidden if that player cant win a game takes away the essence of risk a game 100 percent designed to roll dice and attack adjoining regions . its a players responsibility to prevent that from happening with tactics and troop placement . to ask the site to remove anyone's ability to attack a adjoining area at any point in a game is defeating the whole risk concept


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Re: b00060

Postby b00060 on Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:47 pm

Tell me how you were going to win when I still had more men than you the last round????????????
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Re: b00060

Postby zeus111 on Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:12 pm

b00060 wrote:Tell me how you were going to win when I still had more men than you the last round????????????




2020-01-13 16:55:36 - CaronylKluster: Green if you would kindly move off Burgos, I can attempt to attack Red to keep this game competitive?

if you didnt attack yellow most certainly was . as the troops were front line for the taking only person to blame is and was caff for leaving them exposed any player whos played speed baltics round limit trench will tell you leave troops on front line they get hit, poor strategy lost this game ya simply dont leave the bulk of your troops on bordering areas to be attacked for this very reason .

what gets me is how he even thinks any different and wants a precedent set prohibiting a final round attack if you have no chance at the win . i cant stress this enough if the troops were behind the line they cant be touched its clear the mistake made on caffs behalf but is un clear why the site would accommodate poor tactics in this case and put a limit on attacking .
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Re: b00060

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:40 pm

Yeah zeus, I read your posts sometimes. I don't believe I ever stated I never read them. If you have an issue with my comments in game chat, then report me. Otherwise you have no reason to bring them up. If you get more upset over words than the integrity of the game then you should grow some thicker skin.

Like I keep saying, let's just wait for a ruling shall we? I'm over the tournament loss. It makes a lot of sense why b00060 would be so vindictive considering he was outplayed for 19 rounds and has never achieved anything noteworthy in his 11yrs of playing. I can't relate to him, but I can sympathise. I'm just waiting for a ruling to be given one way or another so that I know whether or not I can start targeting people I don't like in tournaments just to make sure they don't win.
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Re: b00060

Postby zeus111 on Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:08 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:Yeah zeus, I read your posts sometimes. I don't believe I ever stated I never read them. If you have an issue with my comments in game chat, then report me. Otherwise you have no reason to bring them up. If you get more upset over words than the integrity of the game then you should grow some thicker skin.

Like I keep saying, let's just wait for a ruling shall we? I'm over the tournament loss. It makes a lot of sense why b00060 would be so vindictive considering he was outplayed for 19 rounds and has never achieved anything noteworthy in his 11yrs of playing. I can't relate to him, but I can sympathise. I'm just waiting for a ruling to be given one way or another so that I know whether or not I can start targeting people I don't like in tournaments just to make sure they don't win.



m8 it takes that exact move to sharpen up game play . you have to see asking to change the very concept of attacking a adjourning area is not plausible in any way . i do see no need for wishing cancer on any one yup yup i do ,

also caff for the last time the game of risk is set up to attacking regions you border in this case the player attacked 2 withing striking distance of his territory precisely how the game is set up to play many many games are decided in the last round of attacking . this is why i dont play tournaments 100 percent the 5 foes i have in the past events we just scrap one another well with in the game perimeters mind you but not much thought goes in to winning . you cant say it was your game here clearly because you didnt win m8 the player attacked regions that were in attacking range plain and simple

good luck setting this precedent i dont see it happening but im wrong lots on here


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Re: b00060

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:37 pm

I don’t really care about your opinion on my gameplay, or anything. I’m also not bothered which way this is ruled on. It’s not like I can get that tournament win now, so no point being bothered about it. If b00060 isn’t punished then that leaves a lot of room for people I dislike to start losing tournaments. Sounds good to me.
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Re: b00060

Postby riskllama on Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:17 pm

lol, how old are you?
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Re: b00060

Postby zeus111 on Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:50 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:I don’t really care about your opinion on my gameplay, or anything. I’m also not bothered which way this is ruled on. It’s not like I can get that tournament win now, so no point being bothered about it. If b00060 isn’t punished then that leaves a lot of room for people I dislike to start losing tournaments. Sounds good to me.



its your call up to you how you attack. most trench players wont let you hit a game changing stack , in other setting s its really up to you how you decide to play that game . its like a bonus monkey in esq spoils taking plus 2 in round 7 it sux but is allowed . in most cases this leads to the player removed gets taken out for spoils . its just the way the game we play is structured stop trying to change up a game with such simple rules !!
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Re: b00060

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:29 pm

*Sigh*

Was what b00060 did in the game a douchey move? Sure. Was it against the rules? Don't think so. This has happened in several major tournaments I have been in, namely the BR tournaments that last year-round.

Was what iAmCaffeine said in the game chat a douchey move? Sure. Was it against the rules? Don't think so. There a few no-no words and I don't think any of them were said.

Both of you need to grow up, for real. It's immoral to take the lead from someone when you have no chance of winning on the last round, and it's immoral to wish cancer and death to kids. Both of you are at fault here.
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Re: b00060

Postby Kotaro on Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:41 am

Jdsizzleslice wrote:*Sigh*

Was what b00060 did in the game a douchey move? Sure. Was it against the rules? Don't think so. This has happened in several major tournaments I have been in, namely the BR tournaments that last year-round.

Was what iAmCaffeine said in the game chat a douchey move? Sure. Was it against the rules? Don't think so. There a few no-no words and I don't think any of them were said.

Both of you need to grow up, for real. It's immoral to take the lead from someone when you have no chance of winning on the last round, and it's immoral to wish cancer and death to kids. Both of you are at fault here.


Only cancer and death to b0060, his kids get to live on but never say goodbye.

I dunno, but a grown ass adult wishing death over a video game, while repeatedly calling someone a cunt? Why is something that is probably perma-bannable on the forums allowed in the game? Actually curious on this.
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Re: b00060

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:42 am

riskllama wrote:lol, how old are you?

Old enough that words from largely irrelevant people on a website don't matter to me, but maintaining the integrity of the game we spend so many hours playing does matter to me.

Jdsizzleslice wrote:It's immoral to take the lead from someone when you have no chance of winning on the last round, and it's immoral to wish cancer and death to kids. Both of you are at fault here.

I didn't wish death or cancer on any kids. Just like to clarify that, thank you.
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Re: b00060

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:43 am

Kotaro wrote:I dunno, but a grown ass adult wishing death over a video game, while repeatedly calling someone a cunt? Why is something that is probably perma-bannable on the forums allowed in the game? Actually curious on this.

Not everywhere is the USA. Plenty of other countries find the word "cunt" a lot more commonplace.
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Re: b00060

Postby b00060 on Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:59 am

I HAD MORE MEN THAN HIM, HE WAS NEVER GOING TO WIN ANYWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: b00060

Postby Mad777 on Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:34 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:I didn't wish death or cancer on any kids. Just like to clarify that, thank you.


just for recall and perhaps my interpretation of english is not clear but;

2020-01-15 14:28:59 - iAmCaffeine: hope you choke on cancer and your kids, if they're unfortunate enough to exist, never say goodbye


Now outside of this i think you both need to relax...it is an online game...happen to all of us and yet it may not be funny but nothing justify the boiling bad words and attitude for sure a situation.

Foed each other and move on. If any sentence would come off this case both should get something or no one. No rules breaking here that would require punitive outcome unless one for going after Caff troops and the other for shooting such irrelevant insults into the game chat.
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