Closed tfh182 - Lying to tarnish reputations.

[mrswdk]

I just love how the charge is ‘lying to tarnish reputations’.

[Thorthoth]

I just love how the charge is ‘lying to tarnish reputations’.

The inverse of 'lying to save reputations' would be even more amusing...
Though of course, if that were a crime the C&A docks would be booked solid.

[king achilles]

Put him on your Foe list and move on. It's also a mental game and your opponent can say anything in an attempt to sway others. Feel free to also rate him accordingly.

[MagnusGreeol]

2017-09-19 13:32:50 - tfh182: I only took one troop from you... just so I could get a card.... which never comes btw..
2017-09-23 13:59:20 - tfh182: has anybody gooten a card yet...???? just asking...
2017-09-25 08:58:58 - tfh182: Red....mind games keeps fucking with my head. He has been sending me all this private messages saying if I take NY I will get a card... It changes each time.... I decided not to attack you so you can move in and hurt that mind game fella.
2017-09-26 12:33:23 - PROFITS: Why did you break me blue?
2017-09-26 12:33:36 - PROFITS: I haven't broken you
2017-09-26 12:34:04 - PROFITS: When did green send you the private message?
2017-09-26 12:40:39 - tfh182: Red I didn't want to attack you mind games made me do it.

- I know the verdict is in, And I know that it isn't against rules to lie about things to give false or true info about place/troops etc. pertaining to the maps/wars,, But lying saying someone is pm'ing you about the war out of game chat should be against the rules, If no one(s) knows any better than it could be taken serious and CA report would be made and bad ratings could come of it to, and all unjustly because of a lie NOT pertaining to war strategic, but to tarnish ones honor and integrity.

- A def. warning should have been placed on tfh182, No one should be able to blatantly lie and announce another player pm'd them about game, When in fact no pm at all was sent, It is very disruptive to fair game play.

- I motion to KA to warn tfh182 of future thoughts about pm lying, and note this.

- Thank You & Have a nice day '')>

[m1ndgames]

Put him on your Foe list and move on. It's also a mental game and your opponent can say anything in an attempt to sway others. Feel free to also rate him accordingly.

Will do, thanks.

[m1ndgames]

I know the verdict is in, And I know that it isn't against rules to lie about things to give false or true info about place/troops etc. pertaining to the maps/wars,, But lying saying someone is pm'ing you about the war out of game chat should be against the rules, If no one(s) knows any better than it could be taken serious and CA report would be made and bad ratings could come of it to, and all unjustly because of a lie NOT pertaining to war strategic, but to tarnish ones honor and integrity.

- A def. warning should have been placed on tfh182, No one should be able to blatantly lie and announce another player pm'd them about game, When in fact no pm at all was sent, It is very disruptive to fair game play.

- I motion to KA to warn tfh182 of future thoughts about pm lying, and note this.

- Thank You & Have a nice day '')>

I agree and do think a rule should be created to cover this.

[owenshooter]

- A def. warning should have been placed on tfh182, No one should be able to blatantly lie and announce another player pm'd them about game, When in fact no pm at all was sent, It is very disruptive to fair game play.

well, thankfully you aren't a mod. why? this CLEARLY is not a rule violation. next, you will want warnings issued to players that lie in fog games or reveal info real/false in fog games. it was not and is not a violation...-Jésus noir

[MagnusGreeol]

- A def. warning should have been placed on tfh182, No one should be able to blatantly lie and announce another player pm'd them about game, When in fact no pm at all was sent, It is very disruptive to fair game play.

well, thankfully you aren't a mod. why? this CLEARLY is not a rule violation. next, you will want warnings issued to players that lie in fog games or reveal info real/false in fog games. it was not and is not a violation...-Jésus noir

- Next you'll be telling us you didn't read what I wrote? I understand ( but dont practice) the part about lieing about war pertaining info, but to outright lie and say another pm'd him about said war privately out of chat, is bogus, and absolutely should be against the rules.

- How about you and I Owen enter an 8 man standard, then out of no where I say aloud " Owen can you please stop pm'ing me asking to team up against blue, its against the rules" ,,, Wouldnt you (Owen) be like,,,WTF, That ain't right? That is not even close to strategic war play, Thats trying to make another appear sneaky and without integrity, nothing to do with giving false info, or lieing about position/strength.

[riskllama]

racist.

[iAmCaffeine]

I still think it's hilarious that someone called mindgames couldn't tell when someone was playing mind games with him.

[notyou2]

[m1ndgames]

I still think it's hilarious that someone called mindgames couldn't tell when someone was playing mind games with him.

It's not mind games with me. It's mind games with everyone else, creating the perception that I'm a cheat.

As for 'hilarious', as I've said before, if this is the extreme of what you find funny, then you lead a pretty sad existence.

[Thor60]

Well it just happens,

How can you really stop it, it is a freedom of speech and what they personally think. No matter what you say, if that is what they think then that is what they will say.

I for one just recently was in a game and was accused in the game for cheating. The other played called it secret diplomacy. which was completely untrue. I have never ever played with this person nor chatted with him in any way, before the game and during the game. I tried to convey it to the player that was accusing us both. But of coarse to no avail. So the game went on after more discussion. He then went suicide on me just to prove his point? Did not understand that tactic in playing but oh well. I did end up loosing the game to another player do to the suicide moves. Oh well just a game and if some players wish to play with an attitude like that how can you stop it? I just chalked it up to a bad player and put him on my list of players to avoid.

Here comes the lie. I checked on my ratings, which have been very good from all the other players I have been in games with. So he puts in my rating " Tags: Good Teammate, Coward, Secret Diplomacy, Cheap Tactics" . Which was untrue and a totally a lie. But I can not undo his thought, if that is what he thinks it is his freedom to say so. I tried to convince him in game chat Game 17751707, but he still seems it necessary to continue his thoughts to lie about it on my ratings.

The clan I am in one of our rules is, we do not whine about other players nor whine about loosing a game. It is a game and we are all here to have fun. Why let it bother you. Also as a child growing up I was taught if you do not have something good to say about someone it would be best to not say anything at all. Which is why I did not rate him. He is a bad player of which I shall never be in a game with again, which is my choice and freedom. I just wish he had the same values before he thought to put a bad rating on" My Ratings "

Thor60

[m1ndgames]

Well it just happens,

How can you really stop it, it is a freedom of speech and what they personally think. No matter what you say, if that is what they think then that is what they will say.

I for one just recently was in a game and was accused in the game for cheating. The other played called it secret diplomacy. which was completely untrue.

Thor60

There's a bit of a difference between someone thinking something and someone just telling a lie.

Thinking someone has some secret diplomacy going on is fine. As you say, true or otherwise, that's what they think.

Saying something that hasn't happened though isn't a 'thought', it's a lie.

[iAmCaffeine]

I still think it's hilarious that someone called mindgames couldn't tell when someone was playing mind games with him.

It's not mind games with me. It's mind games with everyone else, creating the perception that I'm a cheat.

As for 'hilarious', as I've said before, if this is the extreme of what you find funny, then you lead a pretty sad existence.

This isn't even the extreme.

[Thorthoth]

I still think it's hilarious that someone called mindgames couldn't tell when someone was playing mind games with him.

It's not mind games with me. It's mind games with everyone else, creating the perception that I'm a cheat.

As for 'hilarious', as I've said before, if this is the extreme of what you find funny, then you lead a pretty sad existence.

This isn't even the extreme.

At least IAC didn't insult our intelligence by trying to deny the 'pretty sad existence' part.

[m1ndgames]

At least IAC didn't insult our intelligence by trying to deny the 'pretty sad existence' part.

[iAmCaffeine]

At least IAC didn't insult our intelligence by trying to deny the 'pretty sad existence' part.

The irony in both these comments is remarkable. Lmao.