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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby jefjef on Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:06 pm

caymanmew wrote:ok here what i think in terms f what should be punished. i think we should get a clear for what owen reported. it was not spam as 1 person never posted more then once. although what was dont to lack it spam and should be punished.(with a warning or ban or whatever)


Are you negotiating your punishment? LMAO!!!

Heck lets just put up a poll and vote on it.

A: Web site ban all.

B: Warn them and make them scrub walls.

C: All the above.
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby pmchugh on Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:17 pm

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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby Caymanmew on Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:20 pm

jefjef wrote:
caymanmew wrote:ok here what i think in terms f what should be punished. i think we should get a clear for what owen reported. it was not spam as 1 person never posted more then once. although what was dont to lack it spam and should be punished.(with a warning or ban or whatever)


Are you negotiating your punishment? LMAO!!!

Heck lets just put up a poll and vote on it.

A: Web site ban all.

B: Warn them and make them scrub walls.

C: All the above.


no i not negotiating it i saying what should be punished and what should not be punished. (but i'm happy to be let free here)
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members

Postby gcwca_4_life on Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:36 pm

lord voldemort wrote:being drunk is no excuse at all...
quite frankly im tired of people trying to use it on a weekend. Oh i was drunk you cant hold me responsible. If you cant hold your alcohol...dont drink...if you cant control yourself when you drink to not be.....well annoying....then just dont turn on your computer. In fact if you are getting drunk why the flip are you on a computer?

lovo, just don't forget, no one is awesome as me when I'm drunk. :P



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jefjef wrote:Mmmm. I'm sorry owen. You seem to have a valid complaint. lacks wall was heavily banged by the same gang.

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loves you... thank you for your kind words, my son, they shall not soon be forgotten... the black jesus has spoken...-the black jesus



Ooooh black jesus, I need your help. I'm a sinner, and I'm goin to hell. :(



jefjef wrote:
caymanmew wrote:ok here what i think in terms f what should be punished. i think we should get a clear for what owen reported. it was not spam as 1 person never posted more then once. although what was dont to lack it spam and should be punished.(with a warning or ban or whatever)


Are you negotiating your punishment? LMAO!!!

Heck lets just put up a poll and vote on it.

A: Web site ban all.

B: Warn them and make them scrub walls.

C: All the above.


All votes for C get a free batch of cookies from jefjef! :P

caymanmew wrote:
jefjef wrote:
caymanmew wrote:ok here what i think in terms f what should be punished. i think we should get a clear for what owen reported. it was not spam as 1 person never posted more then once. although what was dont to lack it spam and should be punished.(with a warning or ban or whatever)


Are you negotiating your punishment? LMAO!!!

Heck lets just put up a poll and vote on it.

A: Web site ban all.

B: Warn them and make them scrub walls.

C: All the above.


no i not negotiating it i saying what should be punished and what should not be punished. (but i'm happy to be let free here)


AAAAAHHHH!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!!


Your not free yet. This is still pending. ;)
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby lord voldemort on Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:51 pm

was there anyone else you did this to?
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:14 pm

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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby Caymanmew on Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:16 pm

lord voldemort wrote:was there anyone else you did this to?



i did it to maybe 6? players the other 4 where doing it to other before me so i cant say how many in total
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby owenshooter on Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:37 pm

caymanmew wrote:ok here what i think in terms f what should be punished. i think we should get a clear for what owen reported. it was not spam as 1 person never posted more then once. although what was dont to lack it spam and should be punished.(with a warning or ban or whatever)

it most certainly is spam. and to make it even worse it was a coordinated spam attack. just because each of you only left one message does not mean it was not spam. you all left similar messages in an effort to fill my wall with one distinct theme/message. it is spam. you should be punished for what you did. and now your admission of doing it to 6 others and not knowing how many the others have done it to proves my points. you are synchronizing the spamming of walls. if i were to contact 100 members and have each of them send you an individual message that stated "robots don't eat candy", would that be spam? each member only sent you one message, so by your standard it can't be spam. you filled my wall just as i would fill your inbox with a single distinct and synchronized message. you all posted at the exact moment!! how was this not synchronized and/or not spam? i truly find it amusing that you feel that you should not be punished for what you did to my wall, but only to others walls... get a grip.. the black jesus is saddened by your actions...-the black jesus
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby Caymanmew on Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:17 pm

owenshooter wrote:
caymanmew wrote:ok here what i think in terms f what should be punished. i think we should get a clear for what owen reported. it was not spam as 1 person never posted more then once. although what was dont to lack it spam and should be punished.(with a warning or ban or whatever)

it most certainly is spam. and to make it even worse it was a coordinated spam attack. just because each of you only left one message does not mean it was not spam. you all left similar messages in an effort to fill my wall with one distinct theme/message. it is spam. you should be punished for what you did. and now your admission of doing it to 6 others and not knowing how many the others have done it to proves my points. you are synchronizing the spamming of walls. if i were to contact 100 members and have each of them send you an individual message that stated "robots don't eat candy", would that be spam? each member only sent you one message, so by your standard it can't be spam. you filled my wall just as i would fill your inbox with a single distinct and synchronized message. you all posted at the exact moment!! how was this not synchronized and/or not spam? i truly find it amusing that you feel that you should not be punished for what you did to my wall, but only to others walls... get a grip.. the black jesus is saddened by your actions...-the black jesus




i woulds not report the 100 people, i'd be pissed off but would suck it up.

it was synchronized yes it was not spam.

i am not saying dont punish me for what i did to owen punish me for what i did to whoever
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby owenshooter on Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:51 pm

caymanmew wrote:it was synchronized yes it was not spam.

this is the krux of the complaint... this is spam... period... it is synchronized spam... 20 similar posts by one person on your wall is the same as 20 people posting 1 similar post on your wall... actually, the latter is far worse, because it requires a certain maliciousness in order to coordinate, plan and execute the attack on the intended targets wall... what you did is worse than spam... the black jesus shall smite you...-the black jesus
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby Caymanmew on Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:04 pm

owenshooter wrote:
caymanmew wrote:it was synchronized yes it was not spam.

this is the krux of the complaint... this is spam... period... it is synchronized spam... 20 similar posts by one person on your wall is the same as 20 people posting 1 similar post on your wall... actually, the latter is far worse, because it requires a certain maliciousness in order to coordinate, plan and execute the attack on the intended targets wall... what you did is worse than spam... the black jesus shall smite you...-the black jesus



i see your points i just dont agree on it
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby pmchugh on Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:42 pm

Is it spam? Yes it is.

But lets get a few things straight, owen is complaining not because this annoyed him (just read his OP) but instead because he is seeking attention, well here ya go pal have a healthy dose.

These "attacks" barely qualify as anything, although admittedly we went to far with lack. I will remove them comments upon request.

Now a few more things:

Lekegolo wrote:I would like to state that I was not involved in the "lack attack" also I would like to state that I was drunk, this wont be happening again. I offer my apologies to all involved.

Lekegolo wrote:Once I had some time to reflect I decided against that course of action and withdrew my post. I think I made the right choice, only time I did that night lol.


You were involved and the only reason you never continued to post was because you weren't able to keep with it. Don't lie, man up and except the no doubt minor yet unjustified punishment.

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On the contrary annoyance was not the intended goal. Attentional annoyance is all over the forums and much higher levels usually including personal attacks and clear disrespect. I would like to think that there is some consistancy from the mods and in this case "Intentionally annoyance" is not applicable.

jpcloet wrote:Not sure if this is abuse, but certainly appears to be immaturity at its finest. Ii wish some of these kids would refrain from posting.


I am not a kid. I have contributed a significant amount of time to CC in order to help in many ways but your right I should refrain from posting at all costs cause I am simply not mature enough.

In sumamry yes it was spam, I admit that. But I would also like to see a consistancy in the moderators and as I have no previous warnings, I can't see any justification in punsihment.
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby trapyoung on Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:04 pm

A warning is technically punishment so I wouldn't get too concerned at being "punished" per se. I've gotten a 2-3 warnings but they've just not been made publicized. I don't think any of you all have gotten in trouble before and this certainly isn't something as egregious being a multi or blatant in-game abuses. Were you guys annoying and acting stupid? Of course, some of you recognize that. But do you guys deserve to be banned from the site? Nope. So you all should just calm down, you deserve warnings, maybe even a 1 day forum and live chat ban just to see it's possible but you guys are pleading like you'll be guested and stuff. That would be absolutely ridiculous and a severe overreaction by a mod, which I don't think will happen. You messed up and you'll be punished, but that punishment will constitute a warning and you'll accept it [hopefully] gracefully.
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby Caymanmew on Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:25 pm

trapyoung wrote:A warning is technically punishment so I wouldn't get too concerned at being "punished" per se. I've gotten a 2-3 warnings but they've just not been made publicized. I don't think any of you all have gotten in trouble before and this certainly isn't something as egregious being a multi or blatant in-game abuses. Were you guys annoying and acting stupid? Of course, some of you recognize that. But do you guys deserve to be banned from the site? Nope. So you all should just calm down, you deserve warnings, maybe even a 1 day forum and live chat ban just to see it's possible but you guys are pleading like you'll be guested and stuff. That would be absolutely ridiculous and a severe overreaction by a mod, which I don't think will happen. You messed up and you'll be punished, but that punishment will constitute a warning and you'll accept it [hopefully] gracefully.



you dont think i'm gotten in trouble?....ok :?
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby trapyoung on Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:05 pm

how much trouble could you have gotten in? someone catch you stealing cookies?
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby Caymanmew on Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:33 pm

trapyoung wrote:how much trouble could you have gotten in? someone catch you stealing cookies?



lol none at all my record does not include 6 mouth ban o chat and 72 hours on forum + a secret alliance
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby pmchugh on Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:38 pm

trapyoung wrote: So you all should just calm down, you deserve warnings, maybe even a 1 day forum and live chat ban just to see it's possible but you guys are pleading like you'll be guested and stuff. That would be absolutely ridiculous and a severe overreaction by a mod


I know mate I am perfectly calm and not afraid of a little ban, but that doesn't mean I can't defend myself. IMO there is no justification for any ban so I'm going to argue my case. I also found some of the comments made by other users to be disrespectful and giving opinions entirely not needed within this thread and as such I felt the need to respond.
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members

Postby king sam on Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:25 pm

lord voldemort wrote:this is pending btw....dont want to get itchy trigger finger out.


lol.. it happened to me and i kept the itchy trigger finger in the holster.

It was a joke and one that wasn't taken too far in my opinion, if players that had this happen to them are seriously offended by it then its as easy as deleting the post in my opinion. But seeing as lacks wall got some heavy damage and whoever else there was that got it then LV is looking at the possible recourse.

My opinion is my opinion but I guess some could perceive it as annoying. I being who I am would rather delete the posts tell the offenders I don't appreciate it and wont hesitate to report them on it if they should do it again and move on my merry way then try to be a whistle blower.

I deal with annoying all the time. I deal with this guy:
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he doesn't hesitate to be annoying and mod bash in my forum when all he really has to do is move on and not frequent this forum. Instead he would rather rant and rave "highlighting the arrogant mods of this site" that VOLUNTEER to keep this place better.

Once again my opinion, and just cause I'm a mod doesn't mean I cant have one. LV is looking more into this cause of the number of people that could have been effected and the amount of disaster that was given to innocent players.

Guys that did this, whatever you get out of this a Warning or not, just don't do it again, you don't know who you might rub the wrong way. Eddie their is no preferential treatment given towards them by me by saying that, I doubt i have even played a game with any one of them, but in the grand scheme of things this is small potatoes to me.

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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members

Postby Caymanmew on Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:35 pm

king sam wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:this is pending btw....dont want to get itchy trigger finger out.


lol.. it happened to me and i kept the itchy trigger finger in the holster.

It was a joke and one that wasn't taken too far in my opinion, if players that had this happen to them are seriously offended by it then its as easy as deleting the post in my opinion. But seeing as lacks wall got some heavy damage and whoever else there was that got it then LV is looking at the possible recourse.

My opinion is my opinion but I guess some could perceive it as annoying. I being who I am would rather delete the posts tell the offenders I don't appreciate it and wont hesitate to report them on it if they should do it again and move on my merry way then try to be a whistle blower.

I deal with annoying all the time. I deal with this guy:
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he doesn't hesitate to be annoying and mod bash in my forum when all he really has to do is move on and not frequent this forum. Instead he would rather rant and rave "highlighting the arrogant mods of this site" that VOLUNTEER to keep this place better.

Once again my opinion, and just cause I'm a mod doesn't mean I cant have one. LV is looking more into this cause of the number of people that could have been effected and the amount of disaster that was given to innocent players.

Guys that did this, whatever you get out of this a Warning or not, just don't do it again, you don't know who you might rub the wrong way. Eddie their is no preferential treatment given towards them by me by saying that, I doubt i have even played a game with any one of them, but in the grand scheme of things this is small potatoes to me.

KS


dont worry not happening again (with me) warning or ban or nothing.


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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby lord voldemort on Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:57 pm

Each offender has received the appropriate level of discipline according to their history.

I feel that this is very much intentionally annoying. And has the potential to get really out of hand. An organised attack on a user's wall of 6 was small. Just think if you got 20 organised people together. Any group doing this will be punished.
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby owenshooter on Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:29 am

lord voldemort wrote:Each offender has received the appropriate level of discipline according to their history.

I feel that this is very much intentionally annoying. And has the potential to get really out of hand. An organised attack on a user's wall of 6 was small. Just think if you got 20 organised people together. Any group doing this will be punished.

exactly... i don't think it was malicious from their defense in the thread, and i don't hold any hard feelings against any of them. a precedent just needed to be set to curb this sort of thing getting out of hand. satisfied with the outcome, and i hope we can all remain friendly on the boards and our walls!!-the black jesus
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members

Postby eddie2 on Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:08 am

king sam wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:this is pending btw....dont want to get itchy trigger finger out.


lol.. it happened to me and i kept the itchy trigger finger in the holster.

It was a joke and one that wasn't taken too far in my opinion, if players that had this happen to them are seriously offended by it then its as easy as deleting the post in my opinion. But seeing as lacks wall got some heavy damage and whoever else there was that got it then LV is looking at the possible recourse.

My opinion is my opinion but I guess some could perceive it as annoying. I being who I am would rather delete the posts tell the offenders I don't appreciate it and wont hesitate to report them on it if they should do it again and move on my merry way then try to be a whistle blower.

I deal with annoying all the time. I deal with this guy:
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=362332
he doesn't hesitate to be annoying and mod bash in my forum when all he really has to do is move on and not frequent this forum. Instead he would rather rant and rave "highlighting the arrogant mods of this site" that VOLUNTEER to keep this place better.

Once again my opinion, and just cause I'm a mod doesn't mean I cant have one. LV is looking more into this cause of the number of people that could have been effected and the amount of disaster that was given to innocent players.

Guys that did this, whatever you get out of this a Warning or not, just don't do it again, you don't know who you might rub the wrong way. Eddie their is no preferential treatment given towards them by me by saying that, I doubt i have even played a game with any one of them, but in the grand scheme of things this is small potatoes to me.

KS


this is a perfect example off what i am saying

1) this was lvs case

2)the op was offended by it thats why he posted so obviously was taken to far

3)this is a c and a forum do you call all members whistle blowers that post in here

4)you use me as a example saying i mod bash plz i get on with a few of the mods i just dont like arrogant comments that some off you make like this post you have made.

5)i respect the fact that it a volunters position but it does not give the right for some of the arrogence that is used

5)yes you could comment on things in the c and a forum but look at it from this point of view

a)lv was looking into it and found the players guilty

b)your comment says it is ok

c)if they appeal and ask you to look at it then they have you quoted saying that things were ok.


ps the bit about the arrogance of mods was meant for another thread

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=123227

in this jef jef openly flames a player with no punishment.
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby pmchugh on Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:33 am

lord voldemort wrote:Each offender has received the appropriate level of discipline according to their history.

I feel that this is very much intentionally annoying. And has the potential to get really out of hand. An organised attack on a user's wall of 6 was small. Just think if you got 20 organised people together. Any group doing this will be punished.


Fair enough.
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby Woodruff on Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:00 am

caymanmew wrote:
trapyoung wrote:A warning is technically punishment so I wouldn't get too concerned at being "punished" per se. I've gotten a 2-3 warnings but they've just not been made publicized. I don't think any of you all have gotten in trouble before and this certainly isn't something as egregious being a multi or blatant in-game abuses. Were you guys annoying and acting stupid? Of course, some of you recognize that. But do you guys deserve to be banned from the site? Nope. So you all should just calm down, you deserve warnings, maybe even a 1 day forum and live chat ban just to see it's possible but you guys are pleading like you'll be guested and stuff. That would be absolutely ridiculous and a severe overreaction by a mod, which I don't think will happen. You messed up and you'll be punished, but that punishment will constitute a warning and you'll accept it [hopefully] gracefully.


you dont think i'm gotten in trouble?....ok :?


In which case, I suppose you should have learned from that experience.
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Re: synchronized wall spamming/multiple members [pending] lv

Postby BoganGod on Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:22 am

Woodruff wrote:
caymanmew wrote:
trapyoung wrote:A warning is technically punishment so I wouldn't get too concerned at being "punished" per se. I've gotten a 2-3 warnings but they've just not been made publicized. I don't think any of you all have gotten in trouble before and this certainly isn't something as egregious being a multi or blatant in-game abuses. Were you guys annoying and acting stupid? Of course, some of you recognize that. But do you guys deserve to be banned from the site? Nope. So you all should just calm down, you deserve warnings, maybe even a 1 day forum and live chat ban just to see it's possible but you guys are pleading like you'll be guested and stuff. That would be absolutely ridiculous and a severe overreaction by a mod, which I don't think will happen. You messed up and you'll be punished, but that punishment will constitute a warning and you'll accept it [hopefully] gracefully.


you dont think i'm gotten in trouble?....ok :?


In which case, I suppose you should have learned from that experience.


come on woody, caymenmew and learnt? In the one sentence? You sir, are slipping :roll: :cry:
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