Aalmeida17 - farming [Warned]

[Aalmeida17]

I just don't understand how it happens ?
is it a matter of creating a lot of games and dropping when a non-? joins???

aalmeida, do you know how it happens?

uh ?!!
realy dont understand u budy , if are u talk about noobs join my games i dont know why they chose mine , i know iam cute but they cant c m

What he means is do you drop any games at all?

drop??
u just can drop before start , i think CC must have a option to drop games after we join , the guy who drop lose the game thats simple =D

[PROFITS]

when a common sarg or leut jumps to colonel all of the sudden in a short period, something just isn't right. someone browsed your games, saw tons of games with ?'s in them, i think it's a legit accusation.

[The Neon Peon]

Just leave them (farmers) be. Stop putting up these C&A threads. If they are bad enough at the game to have to farm new recruits, they probably have bigger problems in real life. I feel sorry for them, if anything, to have such an inferiority complex.

But, seeing as we have a thread already, I do have a question. How the heck do you want anyone to believe that you just started a bunch of games and new recruits just joined?
- the waiting game limit was 50 games. So after the first 50 filled with all new recruits, you start another 50?

I just find it annoying when people (in real life or cc) don't have the guts to just say "yeah, I did it." One of my "pet peeves".

[Incandenza]

Just leave them (farmers) be. Stop putting up these C&A threads. If they are bad enough at the game to have to farm new recruits, they probably have bigger problems in real life. I feel sorry for them, if anything, to have such an inferiority complex.

But it's not about farmers per se, it's about new recruits. According to management, it's worth the time and effort to dissuade people from preying on brand-new potential customers, which makes sense in a business context. The analogy is a bit of a stretch, but you wouldn't have a Little League pitcher face Albert Pujols a bunch of times, since after that the poor kid would probably take up hockey...

[KraphtOne]

when i was doing the 4 man freestyle feudals i started a thread very quickly stating that i noticed a bunch of new recruits were joining and i thought that CC should come up with a remedy, and even gave an idea on how to remedy the situation... to cc's credit they fixed the feudal map (but i'm still sore that i have a warning for farming on my record) and when i finish with my last two medals i will go back to playing 4 man feudal freestyles solely.. but there will be those that will keep trying to find a random map to point hoard on, and even those that will solely join and invite shitty players to games... and i go back to my (among others') suggestion, rank limitations on who can play against whom... or stop complaining when stuff like this happens

[Snowgun]

rank limitations on who can play against whom... or stop complaining when stuff like this happens

I'm all about letting the fucking noobs jump in the pool, and though i hear the business side of things, if you nerf the game, people will think this shit is sissy and will not have an incentive to try and compete.

If people realize that they need to get 1337 to play with the big boys and get respect, then they will try that much harder. it's all about the challenge, and trying to make a name for yourself is the goal of any fuzz faced farm boy who ever slung a gun.

I like Krafts idea, it gives them something to shoot for since it makes something VERBOTEN, which is always honey to the new guy. As well I suggest telling them up front when they make an avatar what the deal is, that there are people who want to touch them in bad places, and then letting them scrap. And forgetting this farmer tattle tale shit.

We all know who the real players are and who farmed their way up.

[king achilles]

Ok guys, we have another case where someone started a bunch of games, with a particular map, and the same settings, where new recruits seem to join. If this has something to do with the map, we'll see. Montreal Map is not a complex map. This is just like the classic map.

Did the accused gave invites to new recruits?

If these games were public games in the first place and everyone were free to join, what do we have here that constitutes farming? Setting up games that attracts new recruits?

[Bruceswar]

Ok guys, we have another case where someone started a bunch of games, with a particular map, and the same settings, where new recruits seem to join. If this has something to do with the map, we'll see. Montreal Map is not a complex map. This is just like the classic map.

Did the accused gave invites to new recruits?

If these games were public games in the first place and everyone were free to join, what do we have here that constitutes farming? Setting up games that attracts new recruits?

Here is how it works in plain english


Higher rank A sets up 40 games of the same type / settings. There is only so much demand for this type / settings. So after a few days these go to the top of join a game page. Now only 5 of the games filled up with decent players while the other 35 got low ranks and new recruits. If he had only started 5 games then all 5 likely would have 0 new recruits. So in essence any map / settings could attract new recruits if someone makes a ton of them.

[king achilles]

Well, that's the thing. Premium accounts do not have any limitations in creating games. If he wants to set up a number of games with the same settings, that is allowed.

[Bruceswar]

Well, that's the thing. Premium accounts do not have any limitations in creating games. If he wants to set up a number of games with the same settings, that is allowed.

Indeed, but also I think it should be within moderation? No need for 50 of 1 type all at once. Surely there are enough maps to keep you busy and not needing to only play 1 map?

[king achilles]

Do you want us to set a precedent that a player should only set a limited number of games of the same settings to avoid farming?

[vodean]

theres an idea, although not realistic. I love feudal and play most settings. do not cap my feudal play.

[vodean]

cc needs to find a way to keep farming from happening without making users stop playing/making games
we should be able to make as many games as we want to, however how do we keep ? from being farmed by joining. maybe a cap of 2 ? per game or something.

b-b-but then i wouldn't be able to farm!!

[alex951]

Do you want us to set a precedent that a player should only set a limited number of games of the same settings to avoid farming?

if this ever happened a lot of people would be encourage not to buy premium again

[Aalmeida17]

when a common sarg or leut jumps to colonel all of the sudden in a short period, something just isn't right. someone browsed your games, saw tons of games with ?'s in them, i think it's a legit accusation.

sarg or liotnent ,ARE U SIRIOS? i am major dude MAJOR

[Aalmeida17]

Ok guys, we have another case where someone started a bunch of games, with a particular map, and the same settings, where new recruits seem to join. If this has something to do with the map, we'll see. Montreal Map is not a complex map. This is just like the classic map.

Did the accused gave invites to new recruits?

If these games were public games in the first place and everyone were free to join, what do we have here that constitutes farming? Setting up games that attracts new recruits?

no i never invite noobs or new recruites , everyone free to join my games

[nippersean]

so what is actually "systematically targeting new recruits?"

That's twice now - you systematically target them - but for some reason someone doesn't know what that means

Is it the systematic or the targeting that's being argued with here.

Else just change the rule - which is fine

[Snowgun]

Do you want us to set a precedent that a player should only set a limited number of games of the same settings to avoid farming?

DAMMIT people! Do you see what these whiny C&A reports are leading to? Thank god King A sees the danger of this.

Sound to me like if anything should be fixed, its the BB code of the join a game link. In fact, the damn link should be erased as nobody but NOOBS uses it anyway.

[nippersean]

Ok guys, we have another case where someone started a bunch of games, with a particular map, and the same settings, where new recruits seem to join. If this has something to do with the map, we'll see. Montreal Map is not a complex map. This is just like the classic map.

Did the accused gave invites to new recruits?

If these games were public games in the first place and everyone were free to join, what do we have here that constitutes farming? Setting up games that attracts new recruits?

KA - but he did it worse than Krapht1 - anyone can see this....

Possibly even as bad as OblX - what are you looking for re farming - please do tell it's confusing everyone.
I know it's subjective - but really....

[Aalmeida17]

only way to finish the farmig is ,every players with less than 1200 points or 30 games completed can not play with players with more than 1200 points or 30 games completed , i am not a farmer why ?!!
CUZ i buy my premium account to play how many games i want , i can start whatever games i want if that is agaist rules , this is a FAIL site, i have no foul about how join , i didnt invite anyone ,(should does work invite new recruites THAT WAS A CC FAIL), is that alright?

[the.killing.44]

If these games were public games in the first place and everyone were free to join, what do we have here that constitutes farming? Setting up games that attracts new recruits?

After realizing that a certain game type fills up with only NR's, starting over 100 games of this game type is targeting new recruits.

Do you want us to set a precedent that a player should only set a limited number of games of the same settings to avoid farming?

No, I'd like you continue the precedent you set with Tezu and Krapht and make Aal stop making these games (in addition to a point reset).

[tdans]

If these games were public games in the first place and everyone were free to join, what do we have here that constitutes farming? Setting up games that attracts new recruits?

After realizing that a certain game type fills up with only NR's, starting over 100 games of this game type is targeting new recruits.

Do you want us to set a precedent that a player should only set a limited number of games of the same settings to avoid farming?

No, I'd like you continue the precedent you set with Tezu and Krapht and make Aal stop making these games (in addition to a point reset).

OH just can it fool...... we should have the freedom to do whatever we want... We pay.. and the New recruits dont mind... If you start making it to where we can only make a certain amount of games on a map cause new recruits join them.. i will leave cc and wont come back.. this is turning into some type of retarded site... i stayed on this site cause of the fuedal map.. and you banned that now from recruits.. CC is going down the drain cause of nitwits and numbskulls.. seriously?? leave it like it was... all this changing will do you more harm than good..

[Snowgun]

If these games were public games in the first place and everyone were free to join, what do we have here that constitutes farming? Setting up games that attracts new recruits?

After realizing that a certain game type fills up with only NR's, starting over 100 games of this game type is targeting new recruits.

Do you want us to set a precedent that a player should only set a limited number of games of the same settings to avoid farming?

No, I'd like you continue the precedent you set with Tezu and Krapht and make Aal stop making these games (in addition to a point reset).

OH just can it fool...... we should have the freedom to do whatever we want... We pay.. and the New recruits dont mind... If you start making it to where we can only make a certain amount of games on a map cause new recruits join them.. i will leave cc and wont come back.. this is turning into some type of retarded site... i stayed on this site cause of the fuedal map.. and you banned that now from recruits.. CC is going down the drain cause of nitwits and numbskulls.. seriously?? leave it like it was... all this changing will do you more harm than good..

WORD to your mother!

[Bones2484]

No one has mentioned it, but a lot (at least, all the ones I clicked on) of these games are Manual. Why are new recruits allowed to play Manual?

[the.killing.44]

If these games were public games in the first place and everyone were free to join, what do we have here that constitutes farming? Setting up games that attracts new recruits?

After realizing that a certain game type fills up with only NR's, starting over 100 games of this game type is targeting new recruits.

Do you want us to set a precedent that a player should only set a limited number of games of the same settings to avoid farming?

No, I'd like you continue the precedent you set with Tezu and Krapht and make Aal stop making these games (in addition to a point reset).

OH just can it fool...... we should have the freedom to do whatever we want... We pay.. and the New recruits dont mind... If you start making it to where we can only make a certain amount of games on a map cause new recruits join them.. i will leave cc and wont come back.. this is turning into some type of retarded site... i stayed on this site cause of the fuedal map.. and you banned that now from recruits.. CC is going down the drain cause of nitwits and numbskulls.. seriously?? leave it like it was... all this changing will do you more harm than good..

Look. I don't really have a position on the whole banning NR's thing. I just want to see consistency.

P.S. Shouldn't banning NR's from Feudal only raise your enjoyment of the map?