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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Scott-Land on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:22 am

maxatstuy wrote:I never cheated in one game...I am a farmer and proud of it, but nothing I did was against the rules. They blocked me from playing with those players because those are some of the players I have the passwords for...If I had known that they would block them all from playing, I would have included my knowledge of Scott-Land's, bruceswar's, InsomniaRed's, and RashidJelzin's passwords as well :lol:

I babysit many accounts and there is nothing wrong with that. If I had actually cheated they would have reset my score as LFAW pointed out. I did not do anything that violated the rules and by you saying I did scott only shows your ignorance



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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Frop on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:23 am

maxatstuy wrote:I never cheated in one game...I am a farmer and proud of it, but nothing I did was against the rules. They blocked me from playing with those players because those are some of the players I have the passwords for...If I had known that they would block them all from playing, I would have included my knowledge of Scott-Land's, bruceswar's, InsomniaRed's, and RashidJelzin's passwords as well :lol:

I babysit many accounts and there is nothing wrong with that. If I had actually cheated they would have reset my score as LFAW pointed out. I did not do anything that violated the rules and by you saying I did scott only shows your ignorance

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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:23 am

maxatstuy wrote:I never cheated in one game...I am a farmer and proud of it, but nothing I did was against the rules. They blocked me from playing with those players because those are some of the players I have the passwords for...If I had known that they would block them all from playing, I would have included my knowledge of Scott-Land's, bruceswar's, InsomniaRed's, and RashidJelzin's passwords as well :lol:

I babysit many accounts and there is nothing wrong with that. If I had actually cheated they would have reset my score as LFAW pointed out. I did not do anything that violated the rules and by you saying I did scott only shows your ignorance



You do not have a single one of those passwords. Nor have you ever or ever will.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Scott-Land on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:26 am

Bruceswar wrote:
maxatstuy wrote:I never cheated in one game...I am a farmer and proud of it, but nothing I did was against the rules. They blocked me from playing with those players because those are some of the players I have the passwords for...If I had known that they would block them all from playing, I would have included my knowledge of Scott-Land's, bruceswar's, InsomniaRed's, and RashidJelzin's passwords as well :lol:

I babysit many accounts and there is nothing wrong with that. If I had actually cheated they would have reset my score as LFAW pointed out. I did not do anything that violated the rules and by you saying I did scott only shows your ignorance



You do not have a single one of those passwords. Nor have you ever or ever will.


Nah he meant he would further lie and say that he does so they would block you, Rashid, Insom and myself from playing. Like I said, Stage 3... 4 to come shortly.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby maxatstuy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:29 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

at the end of that statement where I said I had your passwords, I was going to add at the end (that was a joke for people like bruceswar who cant tell the difference), but then decided to delete it because I figured you were intelligent enough to figure that out, sorry to be proven wrong
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Fruitcake on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:33 am

Scott-Land wrote:
LFAW wrote:Good for you ;-)


You have Skittles quoted when it was me...... owe a few apologies, couple to Comic and Frop in your haste to defend Max of cheating. He did in fact cheat his way to the top no matter how you justify it. Cheating does occur LF no matter how well you like the accused or dislike the accusers. Frankly, my personal feelings towards the posters defending him is that perhaps they practice the same and if so, when Max is guilty and one practices the same, then they are too. May be a huge leap but .......



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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:56 am

maxatstuy wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

at the end of that statement where I said I had your passwords, I was going to add at the end (that was a joke for people like bruceswar who cant tell the difference), but then decided to delete it because I figured you were intelligent enough to figure that out, sorry to be proven wrong



Max there is a time for jokes, and a time to be serious. This is not a time to joke as much as you would like it to be.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby LFAW on Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:03 am

Scott-Land wrote:
LFAW wrote:Good for you ;-)


You have Skittles quoted when it was me...... owe a few apologies, couple to Comic and Frop in your haste to defend Max of cheating. He did in fact cheat his way to the top no matter how you justify it. Cheating does occur LF no matter how well you like the accused or dislike the accusers. Frankly, my personal feelings towards the posters defending him is that perhaps they practice the same and if so, when Max is guilty and one practices the same, then they are too. May be a huge leap but .......


EDIT: In no way does that mean you were wrong to believe in his innocence, just be cautious of whom you defend. In the end it's your reputation at stake.


I apologise for misquoting, was reading Skittles post while quoting yours = the mistake.

As far as I see it Scott, I don't owe any apology, Frop brought my comments upon himself, while Comic I just debated, as I also debated against you and Bruce. Why should I apologise for debating? That is afterall why this thread was made, so people could discuss and debate the accusations.

Scott, you know me, and you darn well I would never be caught for cheating of any kind. As Max knows I find Farming a weak way to gain points, but by no means is it cheating. If anything the accounts owners gave Max their password for a reason. Because of trust. The Mods have seen this as a possible advantage that could be taken and as such have imposed a block.
This is by no means a guilty charge, this is a procaution so no Scott, he has not cheated his way to the top. If he had why has there not been a Bust/Score-reset?

The fact of the matter is he had the potential to cheat, the mods have never confirmed he did so and as such he is still innocent and the mods have rightfully issued a block and nothing more as their is no solid evidence to show cheating, only evidence that could be interpreted to be cheating.

At any rate, yeah its my reputation at stake, but I do not believe for one second I chose the wrong side. Therefore it is very much still intact.

Bruce wrote:You do not have a single one of those passwords. Nor have you ever or ever will.


Haha, erm yeah... *cough* he was joking *cough*

Bruce wrote:Max there is a time for jokes, and a time to be serious. This is not a time to joke as much as you would like it to be.


I just typed my responce above, pressed submit and this post came up. Bruce, lighten up a bit ffs. Its over now.

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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Frop on Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:54 am

LFAW, your blind canine dedication is adorable, but your utter ignorance gets the better of you. Your 'debating' skills are limited to endlessly repeating "No, it isn't." instead of providing valid arguments. On top of that I find it hard to believe how I brought your childish "Who's the idiot? It's you, yeah, you!" upon myself by politely stating that you have shit for brains.

Max has been blocked and that's a 'guilty' verdict over here in C&A, period.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Scott-Land on Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:38 am

LFAW wrote:As far as I see it Scott, I don't owe any apology, Frop brought my comments upon himself, while Comic I just debated, as I also debated against you and Bruce. Why should I apologise for debating? That is afterall why this thread was made, so people could discuss and debate the accusations.

Scott, you know me, and you darn well I would never be caught for cheating of any kind. As Max knows I find Farming a weak way to gain points, but by no means is it cheating. If anything the accounts owners gave Max their password for a reason. Because of trust. The Mods have seen this as a possible advantage that could be taken and as such have imposed a block.
This is by no means a guilty charge, this is a procaution so no Scott, he has not cheated his way to the top. If he had why has there not been a Bust/Score-reset?

The fact of the matter is he had the potential to cheat, the mods have never confirmed he did so and as such he is still innocent and the mods have rightfully issued a block and nothing more as their is no solid evidence to show cheating, only evidence that could be interpreted to be cheating.

At any rate, yeah its my reputation at stake, but I do not believe for one second I chose the wrong side. Therefore it is very much still intact.

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You're correct LF, you don't owe anyone an apology but if I were in your position, I would've. I wasn't implying you had or would ever cheat, however it does concern me why you're so adamant on defending Max after he's been found guilty. Either you've misinterpreted the overwhelming evidence of abuse or you've misinterpreted account sitting rules. Regardless of which, 10+ players are not going to be blocked because he was innocent. A block is guilt LF- perhaps another misinterpretation by you.

There are no sides, LF. There's only one side- do what we can to prevent players from cheating.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby hulmey on Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:48 am

Im sorry guys but a block does not been guilt. It means it can not be proved or disapproved. YOu guys really twist things for you own agenda. Ps...before you all coming rushing at me like a bull in a china shop; ive seen it posted by multi hunter himself (sully or king i believe)
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:56 am

hulmey wrote:Im sorry guys but a block does not been guilt. It means it can not be proved or disapproved. YOu guys really twist things for you own agenda. Ps...before you all coming rushing at me like a bull in a china shop; ive seen it posted by multi hunter himself (sully or king i believe)



The way I see this is that max was abusing the sitting of accounts. Since there is no fool proof way to lock him out of other people's accounts, they did the best they could for now by blocking these players. I do not believe they thought Paddy would team up with prank and play both account, rather that max had both passwords, and could do it. That is just what I thought they did by putting in these blocks.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby xxtig12683xx on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:29 pm

and the list continues to grow...elistuy, KingOfGods, Paddy The Cat, maxatstuy, fantasianasian, JCKing, 300spartans, JesusReigns, Prankcall, phantomzero, freeroll84, dallascowboys11, assassin07, 1dominic88, maxs account, ninjaraider, BlackIrish, Brazileiro, Nom Anor, buttpirate69 and krusher

lets see how big this gets


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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Prankcall on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:33 pm

If blocks are being handed out as they seem to be since i just got this (elistuy, KingOfGods, Paddy The Cat, maxatstuy, fantasianasian, JCKing, 300spartans, JesusReigns, phantomzero, freeroll84, dallascowboys11, assassin07, 1dominic88, maxs account, ninjaraider, krusher, BlackIrish, Brazileiro, Nom Anor, buttpirate69) those are the blocked players i cant play..which is fine i dont know half them anyways..However it seems to me that Bruce and his little BITCH ass crying about shit needs to be blocked from sucking Scott's dick all nite long that goes for Red too..I've played in to many games with Scott ,Bruce and Insomnia. Any1 that has knows exactly what im tlaking about.Go review his games and win percentage in games that they play together.They never attack him always block for him etc.It's bullshit you guys act like fucking kids and shit has to come to this.I had nothing to do with this and have recieved numerous blocks.Just shows this site is far from being un-biased and has no real order.The only order here is chaos.I see no reason i cant give my password out if i may miss a game or cant finish
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Night Strike on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:51 pm

Prankcall, if you have a problem with Bruce, go make a new thread about him as it's a different accusation/case. This thread also isn't the place for flaming him.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Paddy The Cat on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:55 pm

already filed my ticket...

lame ruling, now im blocked form playing kog, prank, 300spartans, etc. etc.?

me and king are doing some good stuff in a doubles tourney right now, hope i can resume it :?
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:50 pm

Prankcall wrote:If blocks are being handed out as they seem to be since i just got this (elistuy, KingOfGods, Paddy The Cat, maxatstuy, fantasianasian, JCKing, 300spartans, JesusReigns, phantomzero, freeroll84, dallascowboys11, assassin07, 1dominic88, maxs account, ninjaraider, krusher, BlackIrish, Brazileiro, Nom Anor, buttpirate69) those are the blocked players i cant play..which is fine i dont know half them anyways..However it seems to me that Bruce and his little BITCH ass crying about shit needs to be blocked from sucking Scott's dick all nite long that goes for Red too..I've played in to many games with Scott ,Bruce and Insomnia. Any1 that has knows exactly what im tlaking about.Go review his games and win percentage in games that they play together.They never attack him always block for him etc.It's bullshit you guys act like fucking kids and shit has to come to this.I had nothing to do with this and have recieved numerous blocks.Just shows this site is far from being un-biased and has no real order.The only order here is chaos.I see no reason i cant give my password out if i may miss a game or cant finish



Prank if you read, I thought this was a very lame ruling. tbh you being lumped in with all max is lame. Never had a problem with you or for that matter nearly everybody on the list. When I first read the ruling I just thought max was blocked from playing with those people. Having blocks between each of of those accounts if you ask me is not fair at all. Seems like that anybody who ever had max sit for them took just as hard of a beating as max did and that is not right. Max was the one who did the wrong, yet everybody else has to suffer? Not cool. Anyhow I can understand you being pissed, as I would be as well if it happened to me. The way I see this is Max is guilty and he is the one that deserves the blocks, not the rest of you.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby Hotdoggie on Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:58 pm

Nice cock-up mods...block everyone wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:44 pm

I think this will clear everything up

mods- answer this

Did any player, besides Max, make moves for other players that can be considered abuse? Anotherwards, did everyone exchange passwords to allow others to make moves for them while they were not away. There is no way Max babysat all those accounts by himself. Theres no way all those players needed someone to watch their accounts. So did all those players listed take turns like Max or was he the only player making all the moves? please head back to the juror room and let us know if it was just Max or everyone listed.

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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:00 pm

max

6 private games against this player. this player makes very odd moves in all 6 games. Allowing you to keep bonuses and attacking neutrals for no reason. Very odd deployments that are no where near the action which attack you but really applies no damage to prevent you from winning. Is this another example of cheating?

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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby maxatstuy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:09 pm

I am personal friends with Tibicina, I know her from school and I am the reason she made an account on conquerclub. I have been trying to teach her how to play on conquerclub, but as far as I know, she did not throw any game. if you look much earlier, she even beat me in one game. She is learning, but me playing my friend is in no way cheating.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby phantomzero on Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:28 pm

The email this morning in my inbox caught me quite off guard. I honestly have no idea what's going on here.

I've asked Max to help sit my account on and off for a long time now. I travel a ton (100+ days a year) and need someone who is dependable and online often. He's one of only two people with my password. I don't have Max's password and have never taken a turn for any of the people on this list.

I was accused in this mornings emaiI of breaking Rule # 1 (no multiple accounts) and Rule #2 (no secret alliances). I have never had a multiple account nor have I ever had a secret alliance.

I can't speak for anyone else on this list, as I have never talked to most of them, but I only ever let Max have my password for legitimate account sitting. I didn't know that Max sat for this many accounts and I didn't know that sitting for multiple accounts was a violation of the rules. I was having my account sat for legitimate reasons, mainly travel. Why am I being labeled a cheater???

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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby lancehoch on Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:36 pm

Anyone who was blocked and would like to have someone look over their specific case, please open an eticket. These will be dealt with in that manner. Thank you.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:23 pm

phantomzero wrote:The email this morning in my inbox caught me quite off guard. I honestly have no idea what's going on here.

I've asked Max to help sit my account on and off for a long time now. I travel a ton (100+ days a year) and need someone who is dependable and online often. He's one of only two people with my password. I don't have Max's password and have never taken a turn for any of the people on this list.

I was accused in this mornings emaiI of breaking Rule # 1 (no multiple accounts) and Rule #2 (no secret alliances). I have never had a multiple account nor have I ever had a secret alliance.

I can't speak for anyone else on this list, as I have never talked to most of them, but I only ever let Max have my password for legitimate account sitting. I didn't know that Max sat for this many accounts and I didn't know that sitting for multiple accounts was a violation of the rules. I was having my account sat for legitimate reasons, mainly travel. Why am I being labeled a cheater???

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did Max start any games using your account or did you join/start all the games ? That could be an issue there. I dont want anyone labeled as a cheater either if they did nothing wrong. Its a tough call since you are responsible for your own account.
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Re: Maxatstuy [blocked]

Postby maxatstuy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:37 pm

I never started ANY games for ANY other account other than my own. I only played out of necessity when there were only a few hours left in their turns to which they could play, other than when people told me they were going away for a while, in which case I played whenever their turns came up. I never abused anyones accounts, and the only issue which has been referenced to is the two games in which I played for paddy in our doubs games when he wasnt online and was about to miss. While I understand that take his turn can be considered strategic as opposed to necessity, when someone is about to miss, strategy is me starting my turn, not playing for paddy. Additionally, at the time when I played those turns, the rules differed and werent straightforward which is why I felt the need to have someone play for me. I didnt break the rules, and the people who say that I did are afraid that they might lose points to me while babysitting on someone elses account. The ban was made out of haste and not logic. I didnt break the rules
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