Khazalid/Racism [closed]

[owenshooter]

Accused: khazalid

The accused are suspected of: racism within the forums

Thread(s): Subject: Porkenbeans

Comments:

within a discussion about porkenbeans and his alleged trolling within a thread in the foundry concerning a map that he found to be questionable due to it's overt bigotry and racism, this comment was directed towards me:

snigger snigger, nudge nudge.

clench dat fist boi, rayz it to de sky. can i have an aaaaamen?

i made comments with the porkenbeans thread and within the foundry thread that caused mrbenn to lock the map thread until it can be closely reviewed and a decision on it's future made. a decision that is clear, concise and objective. my objections halted when that step was taken, as the director of the foundry made it clear that it would indeed be reviewed before it could move forward. now, there have been several flames posted towards me in an effort to bait me into a heated discussion, which is juvenile and against the rules. however, khazalid's clearly racist statements crossed the line and he should be dealt with. this is very clear cut and intentional. he should not be given a slap on the wrist, but a substantial forum ban for his disgusting actions. to top it off, it is clear he knows exactly what he has done. this is from scottland's wall, who also made questionable comments towards me (but more overt which should also be reviewed):

i attribute it mainly to the formative years of casual drug abuse, or the occult miscreancy. jesus saves! apart from that im not really sure, i mean casual racism is ALWAYS funny - dont let the topcats tell you any differently!

by khazalid
on Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:26 pm

there was no mistake or simple error made by khazalid when he directed his racist comments towards me. with this wall post he clearly shows that he finds casual racism ALWAYS funny. it was posted on scott-lands wall after both of their racist posts within the porkenbeans thread.

additional racist comments:

i'd make a gag about a lynch mob, but.. y'know.

peas brudda

this comment is from this very thread. khazalid has proven that he truly finds casual racism, funny. again, a substantial ban is needed for this member so he can learn his lesson that racism/bigotry is not tolerated on CC... thanks...-0

[khazalid]

oh puh-lease owen, keep that card in the deck where it belongs!

[Scott-Land]

Both of their racist posts ? I suppose I did call you a racist and a bigot-- guilty. It's like the pot calling the kettle black...... ohh shit-- that's racist.

As far as Kz's post, isn't that a song by SnoopDog ? Hell Courtney drinks a 50 for her homies all the time-- or is it a 40? Is that racist ?

[khazalid]

and just fyi - i totally agreed with you about the map until it was brought to my attention that you were deliberately mis-posting an old version of it.

hey, if you don't get your way you can always try SCREAMING A LITTLE LOUDER.

i'd make a gag about a lynch mob, but.. y'know.

peas brudda

[owenshooter]

i'd make a gag about a lynch mob, but.. y'know.

peas brudda

oh, i almost forgot that "casual racism is always funny." enjoy your vacation. i think you just sealed your fate with that one.-0

[alster]

owen -

You're so ridiculous. I always snigger at first seeing your crusade posts. But it stops at just a snigger as I realize how sad you are with your hang-ups. Moving towards a "nudge, nudge, snigger, snigger" attitude would probably do you good, gives you more credability when you complain about stuff. You need to realize that you can't have it both ways, you cannot be a jerk in the forums and then run crying when about something your sensitive little mind is bothered by.

Peace out and word to your mother!

[jefjef]

i'd make a gag about a lynch mob, but.. y'know.

peas brudda

oh, i almost forgot that "casual racism is always funny." enjoy your vacation. i think you just sealed your fate with that one.-0

This complaint appears to be a bait for the agenda that is being rammed down the "CC" throat.

What is the definition of "snigger". Is it slang for "snicker"? I have never heard of that word used as a racial slur.

OWEN try smiling and Have a nice day.

[khazalid]

my vacation? you're having a laugh now...

when did it become a capital crime to poke fun at the angry young black man routine? you twisted that thread to your own agenda and quoted willfully out of context - and you know it. are you trying to save face by finding something else to whine about? seriously, i thought you and i were alright. you are actually the only person on CC i've ever discussed race with, back when that thread about risk being a white man's preserve was locked for no good reason. i reckon it would be a bit late in the day for me to be bandying about some racist tendencies but like i said above it's pretty clear exactly what you're trying to do here.

fyi II: to snigger is the act of snickering. sure it's pretty suggestive.. but so are those lacy panties you seem to be wearing these days.

in all seriousness though, give me a shout when you get your balls back so we can be cyber-buds again. i'm not one to hold a grudge

[obliterationX]

I sniggered.

No liez.

[clapper011]

This is the British pronunciation and spelling of snicker.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/snigger

[owenshooter]

This is the British pronunciation and spelling of snicker.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/snigger

Except he admits it is racist in his wall post and then makes an additional lynch mob comment... Nice try, that isn't going to resolve the accusation...-0

[clapper011]

not trying anything owen, just stating what the definition of the word is. Also why I have not closed or locked this owen, I am letting king A look into it.

[porkenbeans]

What in the hell is going on here at CC ?
Snigger ?
Boi ?
lynch mob ?
Does CC condone this type of obvious bigotry ?
These posters would never use these slurs in the real world against a black man.
But safe behind their comp. monitors, they know that their physical well being is safe.
They can debate the meaning of these slurs till the cows come home, but
We all know what the intent really is.
Snigger, haha very funny. You are so clever.
I can't wait to see the clever way that you guys stave off a perma-ban.
You guys are disgusting, and you should feel ashamed.

[owenshooter]

not trying anything owen, just stating what the definition of the word is. Also why I have not closed or locked this owen, I am letting king A look into it.

thanks for clarifying that clapper. however, "snigger" is right up there with the time a few members were cleverly using the word "niggardly" out of context and directed at me. on the face definition of the word, it is fine... used out of context and directed with veiled racism, it was worth a lengthy ban. sure it is a real word, clapper, but the intent is obvious and shameful...-0

[the.killing.44]

not trying anything owen, just stating what the definition of the word is. Also why I have not closed or locked this owen, I am letting king A look into it.

thanks for clarifying that clapper. however, "snigger" is right up there with the time a few members were cleverly using the word "niggardly" out of context and directed at me. on the face definition of the word, it is fine... used out of context and directed with veiled racism, it was worth a lengthy ban. sure it is a real word, clapper, but the intent is obvious and shameful...-0

I agree with you on "niggardly" when that happened, but I find "snigger, snigger, nudge, nudge" used pretty appropriately here.

[owenshooter]

I agree with you on "niggardly" when that happened, but I find "snigger, snigger, nudge, nudge" used pretty appropriately here.

and the lynch mob comments? The "boy" comments? The admission of racist humor on scott's wall? Sorry, I know it is a real word, but that was not the intent...-0

[porkenbeans]

C'mon 44
Are you serious ?
A topic specifically about racism and the opposition uses words like Snigger, and Boi, ?
Their cute and Juvenal way of cleverly trying to get away with open racism is appalling, and obvious to everyone, including my cat, whose eyes at this moment, are open wider than usual.
The law here should clearly come down on intent, Ask my cat, even he knows a bigoted slur when he sees one.

[Mr Changsha]

I'm having a hard time seeing the case for the defense here.

'Casual Racism is ALWAYS fun!' says Khazalid. Yeah, but not being able to access your pm's for a month isn't. I can't see how Andy can avoid treating this as a serious offence, Khazalid's comments were blatantly, joyously racist...

Owen has certainly highlighted his race in his time here, but that doesn't mean that there is therefore an open goal to attack it. To be honest with you I am quite surprised at Khazalid, I always assumed he had more intelligence than that. Not surprised at all that his friends are rallying to his standard, that is to be expected if there is any angle at all to save him, but in this case I suspect it is going to be losing fight.

Assuming this is Khazalid's first serious offence, then we can assume a warning, with his next infraction for a serious offence carrying a long-term ban.

Wasn't the whole point of the bigotory guidelines to try and put a lid on the (sadly) racist views of a sizeable minority of the world's - hence CC's - population? Regardless of whether the comments were made in jest, if they are not punished it will simply encourage those of us who are truly racist to see CC as a place where they can spout their hate.

Sorry Khazalid, but there are numerous ways to make fun of owen, maybe even genuinely piss him off, without resorting to casting aspersions upon his race. You screwed up, and I would suggest the best thing to do would be to apologise.

[ronsizzle]

ridiculous.

[jefjef]

I agree with you on "niggardly" when that happened, but I find "snigger, snigger, nudge, nudge" used pretty appropriately here.

and the lynch mob comments? The "boy" comments? The admission of racist humor on scott's wall? Sorry, I know it is a real word, but that was not the intent...-0

OK. I tried to resist. But look at you all..... OWEN. Did you not crack a "joke" in re of lynching in our PM's? C'mon man...... Get real....... YOU WERE NOT OFFENDED.

And why is porkbean here? FU flames not punished? Kinda like asshole flames I spose.

Well I threw my nonsense in the mix.

Have a nice day everyone.

CC is my master... Andy is my friend... CC is my master... Andy is my friend... CC is my master.. Etc..............

[adr2370]

i find this ridiculously amusing since there are player with the name of niggerpoo out there and i dont see people bitching about that

[owenshooter]

i find this ridiculously amusing since there are player with the name of niggerpoo out there and i dont see people bitching about that

new recruit with two games, I'm sure he will be dealt with... Probably your multi... Offensive usernames is not the topic, thanks for stopping by...-0

[khazalid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ4B7G8Rw3Q

"how'd you know i was gonna get some chicken? c'mon buddy, c'mon. it ain't no secret round here that blacks and chickens are quite fond of one another!" "and all these years i thought i just liked chicken... turns out i must be genetically predisposed to like it."

"look at him, he loves it. look at how happy he looks!"

pretty funny, right?

i was wrong on one point, however. casual racism is not ALWAYS funny. case in point:

y'see, a black man go drive like this: *chilled out looking dude with one hand on the wheel*

but a white guy!: *straight ahead, both hands on the wheel, humming to self*

- plain old not funny. so i'll hold my hands up on that account.



all that aside, i still fail to see how sending up owen for acting like a street preacher has generated an investigation. i'm a reasonable man you know, i thought, in hindsight, maybe the wall post was a little ill-judged without some sort of clarification - so there it goes.

i suppose on the plus side i'm off your annoying PM list now though owen? tell me, how many people did you message about this thread imploring them to come and cast an aspersion eh? i'd give an educated guess at about 25. so what's wrong with the lynching joke now?

[khazalid]

mr. c - do you see anyone in THOTA posting here? i didn't think so either

if you're not savvy enough to get it in context then its your problem - you can save the little diatribes on my intellect for when i say poll instead of pole

[finchboy]

clicky Join the dots people, it would appear 'shooter has already been warned for frivolous complaints and spam on quasi-racism, and again their are only a few folks who agree with him and these are the people who always agree with him. Kaz may get a warning for casual racism but it's equally likely that 'shooter might get a warning for going on and on like a scratched record.

We wait with baited breath,
time to set a precedent K.A

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