Noted sylocha & mannymal[ES]

[CMetternich]

Accused:

mannymal
sylocha




The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy


Game number(s):

Game 10370960
Game 14064455
Game 21200314
Game 18613267
Game 22196019


Comments:
These twins -both from Mexiko- nearly always play together, and when you read the game chat, there are several players who suspected that they are either multis or tend to work together.

[Evil Semp]

They don't appear to be multi's but I will look into secret diplomacy.

[CMetternich]

One of them openly told in a Game chat that they are boyfriend/girlfriend. Of course I don't know if this is the truth, but if it is, one has to say that they should never be allowed to play together agst other players in a normal game.

Several players suspected in the Game chats that they just attack each other to get a bonus or to build up in the beginning, but never harm each other severely. This is also my experience. They work together in a steady union - playing a team game, while the others have to work alone and when they realise what i going on, it is often way to late to respond accordingly.

Of course, ff they would only join team games, no complaints here.

[thegroover]

They seem to win a lot of multi player games that they are both in. Last 50 they win 2/3s of them.

[CMetternich]

They seem to win a lot of multi player games that they are both in. Last 50 they win 2/3s of them.

Of course they win once they play together. The players they face are oblivious & left in the dark that they always start as a team. They never hit each other hard until they threw out everyone else. On the other hand, their record is very poor, when they play alone. This speaks volumes.

Further evidence:

Game 10370960

Comment by Player Deadly666999: "Two mexican, two cheaters....."

Game 18613267

Comment by Player Michael87: "blue do you have any plans to hit yellow" (blue =mannymal / yellow = sylocha)
Further Comment by Michael87 i guess not

Game 18173853
Comment by Player NickJP: Really, yellow? (Yellow=sylocha)
Comment by Player timbe35: Hey Manny, you do see other players in this game right?

Game 14064455
Comment by Players jasholz & thoffs:
jasholz: Explain how it is that you two (supected multi) have played 68 games togather and the first 5 games that you played were against each other
jasholz: both from mexico
jasholz: both joined the same day with in 2 hours of each other
jasholz: both hardly attack each other
jasholz: reeks of being multi

mannymal: Chill green. Boyfriend & Girlfriend. Enjoy the game.

jasholz: that would of been nice to know at the begining of the game
jasholz: you two should not be playing against each other
jasholz: if you want to play team game there is that option
jasholz: i am going to look in to your other games more before i file a report for eithe being multis wich i think you are
jasholz: or seceret diplomicy since you are either using the same computer or sharing the location of the other players on a fog map with each other
jasholz: either way still cheating
jasholz: just pay the 25 bucks and you could play in as many games as you wanted to
thoffs: Good investigative work jasholz.

[Evil Semp]

I have looked at many of the games and I can't find any actions that convinces me that they are working together. I am going to NOTE this for future reference. I know that between the tow of them they have won more games that you would think is possible.

All of the evidence that has been given here is just circumstantial. If anyone finds any hard evidence feel free to contact me.

[elflord]

I and the other remaining player (NickJP) are about to lose game #22930533 where mannymal and sylocha played in a manner that made no sense until I realized at the very end that their accounts had been created on the same day and they were from the same country and had been working as a team the entire game.

They would each work on finishing off other players even when one of them was clearly winning and only attack each other in a way that gained mutual bonuses and did little actual damage. Even if they are actually two different people (maybe boyfriend/girlfriend), their strategy is clearly a form of collusion and cheating.