Noted shroomafied and thirdplanet [ka]

[NIghtwatcher]

Accused:

thirdplanet
shroomafied



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy



Game number(s):

Game 20179898


Comments:
These two played 484 games together. shroomafied played together 1059 games on this site and thirdplanet 1301 games.
In the game 20179898 these two hardly ever attacked each other and as of round 20 i doubt it would be beneficial for thirdplanet to attack me or anybody else but shroomafied.
I myself am creating games and yet i got maybe 100-150 games with one person from my 1107 completed and even those are mostly created by me yet these two have a lot of games where they both joined a game of someone else.
What is the chance of having 50% of games being joined by the same two people...

[thirdplanet]

Hi NIghtwatcher:

Shroomafied and I have played a lot of games together. There's a simple reason for that. We're friends in real life. But that doesn't mean we're colluding against you.

You did not specify a suspicious move or sequence. But I think I know the moves you're steamed about in the Phillipines game. Here's how I saw it:

I attacked you because I saw you as a threat. You had just secured a +7 on my southern flank when I had +2. In that game, Shroomafied had not secured the border directly to the north of me (there was still a neutral to take out) so if I had taken out his stack, I wouldn't have even taken away a bonus. On the other parts of the board Shroomafied had overextended and weakened himself and I assumed another one of the players would get to his weakly held bonuses before his turn. Remember, I was landlocked in Bicol. Even that being said, it was a close call — I remember the turn — and I don't know if I did it right. But I can tell you it was not a function of us having a secret alliance.

I'm sorry you feel this way. I don't know if you're going to be mad again when I take your bonus away again in a few minutes when I take my turn in this game. But as I explained in the chat, I play for myself and the fun of the game and tend not to take other's feelings or interests into consideration when I make moves. And that includes Shroomafied.

I make games too. You're welcome to join them.

[shroomafied]

Are you recommending I smash 9 armies from Quezon into 16 on Camarines on round 17? What did you want me to do bud?

[IcePack]

Reviewing / Pending

[shroomafied]

Game over whiner. We good here?

[king achilles]

As of now, there is not enough evidence that there is a secret collusion between the accused. It is understandable to be suspicious of two players having a game history together and you see them in your game that they seem to be avoiding each other. I also need to mention that this is their first time being reported of suspicious plays over that many games they have played together. For now, let's give them the benefit of doubt.

For the accused, if you have an unusual high percentage of win rate when you two play together in standard games, I strongly advise that you play in team games instead as anybody would easily agree there is something suspicious going on. This report has been noted.