Busted ams9399 and potter215 [ka]

[fra.marchini]

ams9399 and potter215 are the same person. potter215 has already been eliminated for violating the rules while ams9399 has not yet. I'm playing a game with both, and I wish ams can be eliminated before he wins.






Accused:

ams9399
potter215



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse
Other: <Explanation>



Game number(s):

[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]


Comments:

[Edric Wolfswift]

What makes you suspect multis?

[Major.Bossman]

ams9399 and potter215 are the same person. potter215 has already been eliminated for violating the rules while ams9399 has not yet. I'm playing a game with both, and I wish ams can be eliminated before he wins.






Accused:

ams9399
potter215



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse
Other: <Explanation>



Game number(s):

[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]


Comments:

Fixed the links and I am guessing this is the game you referred to Game 15294521. Anyway it seems both of these players were involved in a multi/ secret diplomacy case a while back with jasonsmutek and were cleared. It is odd that the vast majority of porter215's games have been with ams9399. If both accounts are the same person this could be an example of punishment. I believe the extra accounts are closed while the main account receives some form of punishment such as a month long ban from joining new games.

[lancehoch]

Here is a link to the earlier thread. There was no mention of them being multis in the earlier thread, just secret diplomacy. That doesn't mean the hunter didn't check it, but that it wasn't mentioned.

[drisk]

Of 17 games potter215 was in, ams9399 was in 15 of them

[fra.marchini]

That's the point, I'm not sure they're the same person, but they play ALL the games together and Potter has already been punished. So it seems to me that they're multis.

what's your decision?

[lancehoch]

That's the point, I'm not sure they're the same person, but they play ALL the games together and Potter has already been punished. So it seems to me that they're multis.

what's your decision?

That doesn't mean they are multis with one another, potter215 could have had a second account and ams9399 was just a friend.

potter215 has played 17 games (0 wins).
ams9399 has played 162 games (28 wins, 22%).
They have both played in 15 games, ams9399 has won 5 and is about to clean up a 6th (33%-40%).

In those 15 games, alms9399 has been accused of being a multi numerous times (although, I will say he is probably not a multi of potter215):

Game 14992083: Truce between alms9399 and potter215 in round 5 (alms9399 lost)
Game 15003723: ams9399 wins
Game 15007085: ams9399 wins; truce between alms9399 and potter215 in round 11; Wicked_ (not that wicked) reported alms9399 and potter215 as multis

2014-12-10 07:50:27 - ams9399: wicked - and that I am about to knock him out of another - we simply play in many of the same games together since we know one another
2014-12-12 09:35:56 - ams9399: wicked - next time, please voice your concerns on the chat board - prior to causing problems - thank you

Game 15072440: ams9399 wins; ams9399 entered into a truce with jasonsmutek to take out potter215

2014-12-09 19:54:35 - ams9399: jason - potter is getting too strong - truce on Whidbey Island / Port Townsend ONLY - 2 turn notice?

Game 15118788: ams9399 wins
Game 15280072: ams9399 wins; again accused of something

2015-02-09 16:39:45 - TheKeeper: the way you two are playing smells of collusion....I'd never seen a player like blue before....

Game 15288670: ongoing game from which potter215 was booted

2015-02-23 17:57:03 - drisk: red and green appear to be multi. They're in every game together.
2015-02-23 20:21:01 - ams9399: no - we are not - I am trying to clear up the problem with conquer club now

Game 15294521: another ongoing game

2015-02-23 14:37:49 - fra.marchini: what the f*ck! you are the same person!!
2015-02-23 20:18:32 - ams9399: no - we are not - i am trying to clear up the problem with conquer club now

[king achilles]

He/they have yet to contact us but I would likely expect an explanation that they are family or friends and that potter215 had a multi which is why he got busted. I therefore conclude that the appropriate verdict here would be busted, which is referring to potter215.

[drisk]

Potter215 , ams9399, jasonmutek. They're the common denominator.
Potter and Jason don't win. Ams9399 usually wins, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see what's happening. Potter215 was found guilty so should the other two.

[fra.marchini]

so what about Game 1529452?

in less then 3 hours ams9399 is going to win thanks to his second profile's (potter215) help. we all know it would be unfair

[owenshooter]

so what about Game 1529452?

none of the players you mentioned are in this game... you should learn how to link your games, makes looking at them much simpler and people are more likely to do so... good luck...-Jésus noir

[fra.marchini]

sorry I was referring to game 15294521

[owenshooter]

sorry I was referring to game Game 15294521

linked your game. learn how to link. this is becoming tiresome. i come here to relax, not to fix peoples links to games... and he still has an opportunity to clear it up with the admins, he isn't busted yet...-Jésus noir

[adban]

Tiresome? just relax, sit back and play your games.....Mr Noir stop linking and all your troubles will be solved. Jesus has far more important work to curtail than fixing links in Cheating and Abuse reports for Conquer Club. Remember the parting of the Sea of Galilee? Peter and his fishes? Mary and the you know what? Endless stories are her for all to behold...

[owenshooter]

Tiresome? just relax, sit back and play your games.....Mr Noir stop linking and all your troubles will be solved. Jesus has far more important work to curtail than fixing links in Cheating and Abuse reports for Conquer Club. Remember the parting of the Sea of Galilee? Peter and his fishes? Mary and the you know what? Endless stories are her for all to behold...

ahhhh, i see you are familiar with my prior works... you skipped changing water into kool-aid... that one was classic...-Jésus noir

[concrete]

Tiresome? just relax, sit back and play your games.....Mr Noir stop linking and all your troubles will be solved. Jesus has far more important work to curtail than fixing links in Cheating and Abuse reports for Conquer Club. Remember the parting of the Sea of Galilee? Peter and his fishes? Mary and the you know what? Endless stories are her for all to behold...

That's...walking on the Sea of Galilee and parting the Red Sea.
Thought I'd throw that in there.

[owenshooter]

Tiresome? just relax, sit back and play your games.....Mr Noir stop linking and all your troubles will be solved. Jesus has far more important work to curtail than fixing links in Cheating and Abuse reports for Conquer Club. Remember the parting of the Sea of Galilee? Peter and his fishes? Mary and the you know what? Endless stories are her for all to behold...

That's...walking on the Sea of Galilee and parting the Red Sea.
Thought I'd throw that in there.

if you go to the foundry, there is a map in the works with most of my greatest hits...-Jésus noir

[adban]

So delighted someone wasted their time at Sunday school...

[adban]

I'm just glad I never had to study all that bible crap, but thanks for the fill in fairy stories...it's a bit like the movie Frozen but without the Kudos....

[Serbia]

I'm just glad I never had to study all that bible crap, but thanks for the fill in fairy stories...it's a bit like the movie Frozen but without the Kudos....

Who the fuck are you, and why did you suddenly decide to start spamming this forum?

Bollocks.

[owenshooter]

I'm just glad I never had to study all that bible crap, but thanks for the fill in fairy stories...it's a bit like the movie Frozen but without the Kudos....

Who the fuck are you, and why did you suddenly decide to start spamming this forum?

Bollocks.

right? after three years of silence on the site...-Jésus noir