jefe133 and mini j - multi? 8625192[NOTED]ES

[esiobmarf]

Accused:

jefe133
mini j
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The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis


Game number(s):

Game 8625192
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]


Comments: Records show these two players play together a lot too. Not sue whether they are multi or secret diplomacy.

[Evil Semp]

Please be a little more specific about the secret diplomacy part of your complaint. What round and any other reason that you think it is secret diplomacy.

[king sam]

These 2 are Cleared of being multi accounts but if you truly feel there was diplomacy going on between them then we need to know your reasoning for the accusation.

Without it this will be moved to a Closed case.

KS

[esiobmarf]

round 6 was the suspicious one. They were bordering each other along the indiana/ohio-michigan line. Instead of attacking each other jefe113 went through michigan and ontario to attack me in wisconsin, breaking my set. Then mini j went ahead and attacked me in wisconsin to break that threat. They should have attacked each other but went out of their way to get me:

2011-03-12 13:08:15 - Incrementing game to round 6
2011-03-12 13:29:21 - jefe133 received 1 troops for holding Lakes
2011-03-12 13:29:21 - jefe133 received 2 troops for holding Pennsylvania
2011-03-12 13:29:21 - jefe133 received 2 troops for holding New York
2011-03-12 13:29:21 - jefe133 received 6 troops for 19 regions
2011-03-12 13:30:43 - jefe133 deployed 11 troops on Saginaw
2011-03-12 13:30:55 - jefe133 assaulted Mackinac from Saginaw and conquered it from neutral player
2011-03-12 13:31:26 - jefe133 assaulted St. Ignace from Mackinac and conquered it from neutral player
2011-03-12 13:31:33 - jefe133 assaulted Sault Ste Marie from St. Ignace and conquered it from esiobmarf
2011-03-12 13:31:47 - jefe133 assaulted Thunder Bay from Sault Ste Marie and conquered it from esiobmarf
2011-03-12 13:31:58 - jefe133 assaulted International Falls from Thunder Bay and conquered it from esiobmarf
2011-03-12 13:32:48 - jefe133 reinforced Toledo with 1 troops from Lake Erie
2011-03-12 13:33:52 - jefe133 ended the turn and got spoils
2011-03-12 14:51:18 - mini j received 3 troops for 7 regions
2011-03-12 14:52:00 - mini j cashed in a group of Mt. Vernon, Toledo, and Syracuse worth 4 troops
2011-03-12 14:52:00 - mini j got bonus of 2 troops added to Mt. Vernon
2011-03-12 14:52:35 - mini j deployed 7 troops on Goshen
2011-03-12 14:52:47 - mini j assaulted Chicago from Goshen and conquered it from esiobmarf
2011-03-12 14:53:06 - mini j assaulted Lake Michigan from Chicago and conquered it from esiobmarf
2011-03-12 14:53:33 - mini j assaulted Green Bay from Lake Michigan and conquered it from esiobmarf
2011-03-12 14:54:33 - mini j reinforced Goshen with 1 troops from Mt. Vernon
2011-03-12 14:54:49 - mini j reinforced Lake Michigan with 1 troops from Mt. Vernon
2011-03-12 14:55:09 - mini j ended the turn and got spoils

[esiobmarf]

correction, jefe113 broke my set in minnesota while mini j broke it in wisconsin.

[Evil Semp]

Secret diplomacy is very hard to prove when there is no smoking gun. Could mini have been weakening you so jefe could finish you off? Very possible. Could it just be a bad move by someone who has only won two game? Again very possible.

Looking at their previous games together I did notice when jefe won mini was the last one eliminated and when mini won jefe was the last eliminated.

With out the hard evidence of wall post or a reported PM there isn't enough to prove secret diplomacy. I am going to NOTE this report for future reference.

[esiobmarf]

Thanks. I appreciate it.