Chazster and Unknown Hero & others [BUSTED] multis

by **hefm** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:40 am

These are suspected Multis/Secret Alliance
(delete the one they are not)

Suspect users: chazster/unknown hero/alex the conquer
(geez - how many accounts does this guy have?)

Game number: 236998

Comments: Next time don't be such a moron
that you post a message under the wrong name
when typing a comment (see below)...

hefm

by **Molacole** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:42 am

<----begin copy---->

Subject line: <Put name of accused in subject line>

These are suspected Multis/Secret Alliance (delete the one they are not)

Suspect users: <enter names here>

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=Game%20number%20here

Comments: <enter comments here>

<enter your name here>

<----end copy---->

that is the form twill posted for people to use when posting in this forum.

by **hefm** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:01 am

These are suspected Multis/Secret Alliance
(delete the one they are not)

Suspect users: chazster/unknown hero/alex the conquer
(geez - how many accounts does this guy have?)

Game number: 236998

Comments: Next time don't be such a moron
that you post a message under the wrong name
when typing a comment (see below)...

hefm

by **hefm** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:02 am

by **hefm** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:31 pm

okay - i filled the form out but have one more question:

have games ever been cancelled because of blatant cheating?

he all but admitted it in the dialog box...

or is it more of a "tough break, just deal with it" situation?

just curious - even janet reno could close the deal against this guy based on just looking at the game in process...

by **DiM** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:07 pm

games are not cancelled and points lost in front of cheaters are not given back. it would be a lot of work to recalculate all the scores.
imagine i play against some cheaters and i lose 20 points.
then i play another game and i lose only 18 points (because i have less points from the previous loss). now if the points are restored it means in the second game it also has to recalculate the score because i won't lose only 18 but maybe 22. and so on. now think what would happen to the sscores if a cheater is caught after 10 games played with 30 people and in the meantime those 30 people played with 300 and so on.

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by **hefm** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:13 pm

DiM wrote:games are not cancelled and points lost in front of cheaters are not given back. it would be a lot of work to recalculate all the scores.
imagine i play against some cheaters and i lose 20 points.
then i play another game and i lose only 18 points (because i have less points from the previous loss). now if the points are restored it means in the second game it also has to recalculate the score because i won't lose only 18 but maybe 22. and so on. now think what would happen to the sscores if a cheater is caught after 10 games played with 30 people and in the meantime those 30 people played with 300 and so on. )

so they can't cancel an active game where there's definitive evidence of cheating?

no problem - i just figured it's worth the shot to ask...

by **nagerous** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:15 pm

hi I just would like to say I got affected by the same players and when I gave them negative feedback for the game, one replied and gave me negative feedback for "whining" I also posted to warn hefm in his game but by that point it was too late for him

by **nagerous** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:16 pm

my game was 236837 if you want to inspect or you can view it on their negative feedback form

by **nagerous** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:19 pm

same issue with the same players:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=236837

by **Sir Titus** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:24 pm

bean is another alias. This guy needs to be banned ASAP.

In the above game the cheating is so obvious. chazter and unknown hero never went at the same time in that freestyle game but literally went less than one minute after each other.

All of them have been ignored.

by **hefm** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:53 pm

yeah -- i gotta believe if those accounts aren't deleted for cheating, none will be...

most players at least know what continent they own...

i guess you gotta look at it like this though, the points i'll lose i can always get back...

if you're born such an idiot that you can't even tell which clone you're logged in as, that's pretty much it, you can't get the chance to be born all over again not stupid - life will be difficult enough for that moron - let him have his 25 points...

by **Molacole** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:42 pm

usually what happens is they get banned and can play any current games they have, but can't join any new games.

so yeah you have to just deal with it. It's only rank and you at least you know they had to cheat to beat you.

by **Master Bush** on Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:54 pm

First off, I merged your 2 threads together, to make 1.

Second....

chazster, chaz the great, alex the conquer & unknown hero were all BUSTED as multis.