Several Trolls [noted]

[Kotaro]

/yawn

You forgot the biggest spammer, troller, and flamer in that topic; b.k.

[danfrank]

The title of the thread invites that type of behavior..

[Kotaro]

Colton, I don't really feel like foeing a whole group of people. I save that for dicks, not annoyances or rule breakers.

Definition of dick move;

Too lazy to report posts, so goes to forum to accuse a large group of people, and asks volunteer mods to look through 12 pages of an obvious spam/trolling-the-mods thread to get to the facts.

[GabonX]

[nagerous]

Group photo, guess who is who.

[pmchugh]

this post was made with intent to cause a mass uproar, who reports 9 people at once, seems to me you only want your post count up, full well knowing you would get so many replies.. am i correct?

Why would fir need his VC up?

[jefjef]

BTW. I just took the time to look at my posts in that thread. It would be a stretch at best to claim FLAMING & BAITING. And I'm kinda surprised AAFITZ didn't get a mention too. Most everyone else did. Must be a friend.

Personally, I believe that its very clear that I am trying to discuss the actual topic of the debate throughout the entire thread. I post a lot, but it is always in response, and in no way attacking any of the posters. Perhaps I am not allowed to respond to direct responses to my posts, but most would probably disagree.

However, which posts do you think are spamming, trolling or spamming? Many suggested this was the case, but when asked to quote them, not one actually responded. I only saw empty accusations...which were infact the trolling and spamming themselves.

Most got off topic in that thread, which was about BK, and why he might be permabanned, and how he might avoid it. Many avoided the discussion itself completely, to simply discuss the poster, and not the posts. Personally, I didnt see anything in there that could really be considered a flame in any way. It was clearly a collection of posts that were meant to be adversarial, but hardly direct attacks.

One could easily suspect the motive of flaming, but I didnt see one direct flame in there, and I think it would be a mistake to really label anything other than a direct personal attack as a flame.

But, once again...please quote me where you think I break the rules. I try very hard to stay in the guidelines, so Id like to see what you would consider to be breaking them and what you would consider to be flaming, trolling, or spamming. I do of course ask that you post whatever post I was responding too, because I never once posted in that thread, without a direct mention of my name, or my post, except for the main discussion of the topic, which I put quite a bit of time into, and was more than thorough with my explanation of my ideas on the subject.

What really is surprising however, is how most of the accusations of spamming, flaming and trolling, seem to be coming from the same people that are against banning, and have supported flame wars, and have spent quite a bit of time complaining that the mods have been too restrictive in the forum. It kind of reduces the credibility of someone, if they say the mods moderate too much, and then turn around and accuse everyone of trolling and spamming...thereby, becoming trolls and spammers themselves. It certainly seems self-defeating to the original goal in any case.

I did not accuse you Mr Fitz of anything. Only stated that I was surprised you didn't get mentioned also.

[gcwca_4_life]

wow.. I'm not on the list. haha!

[king achilles]

This is also similar and connected with this report. Will everyone get away or escape what should be done to them from that thread? Perhaps. Some of you went in and joined the bandwagon to complain further while others shared a different opinion. It's just another topic that turned into a flame-like thread. Although there are indeed comments there that are spam, almost everything else are being accused of flame baiting on the basis that it does not agree with the reader's opinion. Let's just put all that in record for now so in case some of you creates forum violations like flame baiting again and again in the future, well, that reference thread could also contribute on how you will be assessed further.

[Qwert]

qwert (off-topic spam)

This is first time that im in Cheating and abuse forum. Do i say something what is wrong,because i dont get any warning from Mods.

[Kotaro]

It was simply "noted", so no warnings will be given. And the "noted" itself means nothing, unless the moderators dislike you, than you're on thin ice.

Also, I love how the OP didn't state himself, who did troll, or any of his "friends".

[jbrettlip]

I am disappointed I was not on the list. Damn work schedule taking too much of my time. Don't worry, I will try harder.