jjjvin/1931roadster [noted]

by **Robbie Robb** on Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:38 pm

Accused:

jjjvin
1931roadster

The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 5339217

Comments:
Unfortunately didn't catch it until Round 8 when 1931roadster left one of jjjvin's bunkers completely untouched when he could have easily broken it. Looking back at the game log it is clear to see that they are avoiding each other as much as possible. Looking at their other games it is apparent that they often play doubles games and private games as a team.

by **jefjef** on Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:35 pm

They are pards for sure. Played against em myself. Thats the danger of playing singles against or with pards. It leads to games like this. Probably not diplomacy per say but just one cutting the other some slack. I would suggest you truce with red & turn it into a dubs game.

by **BoganGod** on Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:31 am

Have played them both before, and they are a formidable dbs team, roadster is a really good player. Maybe they are cutting the other players down to size before they hit each other?

by **jefjef** on Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:51 pm

BoganGod wrote:Have played them both before, and they are a formidable dbs team, roadster is a really good player. Maybe they are cutting the other players down to size before they hit each other?

Bogus they are playing like dubs. Hell You've had more combat with your multis.

This player needs to truce with red in open chat & turn it into a dubs game.

by **Robbie Robb** on Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:59 am

Yeah, I've only got one territory left and it's behind red so I told him I'd leave him alone as it's his only hope. Unfortunately at this point it's not going to make any difference in the eventual outcome.

BoganGod: I would say that "cutting each other some slack" or "avoiding each other" until the other players are eliminated is the very definition of secret diplomacy. Sure, eventually one of them will have to fight the other one when red & I are both eliminated and one will get the win. Then I'm sure the next game it will be the other person that wins.

Ah well, if that's the only way that they can get singles wins under their belts I guess I feel more sorry for them than I am angry with their cheating.

by **BoganGod** on Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:10 pm

Robbie Robb wrote:Yeah, I've only got one territory left and it's behind red so I told him I'd leave him alone as it's his only hope. Unfortunately at this point it's not going to make any difference in the eventual outcome.

BoganGod: I would say that "cutting each other some slack" or "avoiding each other" until the other players are eliminated is the very definition of secret diplomacy. Sure, eventually one of them will have to fight the other one when red & I are both eliminated and one will get the win. Then I'm sure the next game it will be the other person that wins.

Ah well, if that's the only way that they can get singles wins under their belts I guess I feel more sorry for them than I am angry with their cheating.

Missing the point kids. Sometimes you don't break another persons bonus if they are in a position to retaliate hard against you. Been able to easily do something, and that thing been a smart thing to do are two greatly different things. Players will also gang up on the stronger player initially in a game as well. I don't expect JefJef to understand that, maybe you have the smarts to robbie.

by **jefjef** on Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:04 pm

BoganGod wrote:
Robbie Robb wrote:Yeah, I've only got one territory left and it's behind red so I told him I'd leave him alone as it's his only hope. Unfortunately at this point it's not going to make any difference in the eventual outcome.

BoganGod: I would say that "cutting each other some slack" or "avoiding each other" until the other players are eliminated is the very definition of secret diplomacy. Sure, eventually one of them will have to fight the other one when red & I are both eliminated and one will get the win. Then I'm sure the next game it will be the other person that wins.

Ah well, if that's the only way that they can get singles wins under their belts I guess I feel more sorry for them than I am angry with their cheating.

Missing the point kids. Sometimes you don't break another persons bonus if they are in a position to retaliate hard against you. Been able to easily do something, and that thing been a smart thing to do are two greatly different things. Players will also gang up on the stronger player initially in a game as well. I don't expect JefJef to understand that, maybe you have the smarts to robbie.

This from someone who has only lost points to me. But no BOGUS. An easy bonus break against his "pard" would have been an apropriate attack. cuz it WEAKENS him. Why didn't he attack it? cuz it would have WEAKENED his pard. AND yellow was stronger and is certainly the strongest now. Last roung jjjj (blue) only attacked green & red. Left the strongest (yellow) alone and it isn't a terminator game. It's a freaken dubs game.

by **king achilles** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:29 am

Just to be sure, I have checked jjjvin and 1931roadster and they are not multi accounts with each other. I agree that they could be friends or people who enjoy playing with each other. This is the first time they have been reported of a possible secret alliance so perhaps, those opponents in the past did not see any 'strange' things when they played with them? We would need more than one game of strong evidence with malicious plays involving the same players to warrant a disciplinary action. If you feel they had a secret diplomacy in your game, feel free to leave the appropriate ratings for these players.

by **azezzo** on Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:03 am

what happened to innocent until proven guilty, or dont you guys have that up there in canada, yah hey der,,

NOTED, with out proof of anything it should read Cleared.

Take off, eh?