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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Devante on Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:15 pm

People complaining is odd and just in poor taste. I get the style and mod input has been annoying at times but we got an original mafia story getting done and we all signed up for it. We keep attacking mods like this and the mafia scene will just dwindle with no one wanting to run one other then the few.

As for Pix followed by Vot, that just reads scummy to me. Doesn't make sense and you got Pixie randomly finally putting in input but without really saying much and voting the guy who was attacked last night. Scummy vibes all around.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Ewebasher on Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:51 pm

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT:


DDS has been replaced by jfm10 (sorry no last 24 hours to decide - this is a madness game after all)

Vot is right: quitting as town is quitting and if fake quitting (as scum) is the new mafia secret scum-weapon.. that can't be allowed either..

DDS was given enough time to reconsider (9 rl days)

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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Loose Canon on Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:39 pm

I am curious as to how Dev knows he was attacked n1?

I guess dev shouldn't answer if this reveals anything useful to scum.

There's other things I'm curious of too, like if it appears I might have taken n1 action when I didn't?

Also whether one scum faction has kill powers odd nights and the other faction even nights. Although this would if so contradict Dev being attacked at face value?

I guess answers to my curiosity should only be offered with care, as safest might be to let me carry on being curious.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Devante on Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:28 pm

Loose Canon wrote:I am curious as to how Dev knows he was attacked n1?

I guess dev shouldn't answer if this reveals anything useful to scum.

There's other things I'm curious of too, like if it appears I might have taken n1 action when I didn't?

Also whether one scum faction has kill powers odd nights and the other faction even nights. Although this would if so contradict Dev being attacked at face value?

I guess answers to my curiosity should only be offered with care, as safest might be to let me carry on being curious.


Got a mod email letting me know I lost a vest
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Loose Canon on Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:00 pm

So as the case against devante as far as I can see amounts to he revealed too much, I will decline to join this particular lynch mob.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Votanic on Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:22 pm

Look, I don't know for sure what happened Night 1, but nothing is adding up.
And since I keep needing to go back to that post, let me quote it here.
SoN!c wrote:N1 follow up story:

Arrived at front of City Hall, the Striga Vampire saw a small window that was left opened in the attic and shape-shifts into a bat to enter it. Once inside, making use of the old ventilation system, the striga quickly found his way to the upper floors.

From above, the striga's evil eye noticed the grand meeting room hall and the priest who was hiding in the large mahogany wall cabinet because he could see the body heat in that closet.. So he Striga smiled and turned away, walking in the direction of the first floor landing before stopping in front of a bedroom. The striga clearly senses something but does not make any attempt to enter that bedroom. It waits and then It just knocks three times on that door, before quickly walking away back to the next upper floor.

On the second upper floor, back into in the direction of the attic he entered City Hall, the striga shape-shifts into a spider and creeps into a locked bedroom. It's the bedroom of Trafalgarlaw01. Law is deep asleep. The striga stands right besides him, pointing his right index finger towards Law's neck. While deep asleep, Traf senses something in his room and wakes up..

Just to see a dark spooky shadow standing bent over him. Traf panics and wants to scream for help. And just when you think it's too late; and the striga will slice Traf's neck wide open with his sharp long fingernail, a dark shadow bursts into the room through the window. And immediately those two creatures start to fight each other to the death.

In that unholy fight Law's neck receives a sharp swipe slashing his neck completely over, splattering his blood against the walls..


Trafalgarlaw01 town 2 shot Flavor Cop, 1 shot cop on 3rd night, 3 shot Parrot has died!

Both creatures keep slashing at each other and scream before a townie rushes in the room to come to Traf's aid. Little does he know Traf is already dead. But all alone against two unholy creatures is no fight. The townie receives a big blow, it happens so fast he can't even tell for sure which creature delivered it but that swing splatters his silver protective vest wide open and knocks him out..

Hereafter the first creature of the night escapes and the other quickly follows..

The rest of the town (those who are in City Hall) rush in but arrive way too late. One of them later describes he thinks the creature he saw escaping last looked like this:
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So some player rushes into the room and has his protective silver vest broken before getting knocked out, ...though Sonic suggested there might be a second charge in it. This does sound sort-of like bodyguard behavior, except...
1. Devante said he wasn't guarding anybody...
2. It didn't work. Traf was killed.
3. The Striga attacks traf, but the second creature breaks in and attacks the Striga
and, most strangely,
4. The first creature (Striga) leaves first, followed by the second one. Some unnamed Townie gets a glimpse of the second creature departing and it also looks like a striga-vampire.

Okay, I'll unvote for now, ...but whatever is going on in that kill scene is complex, and the mod(s) have said different, contradictory things about what is just flavor and what is not.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby jfm10 on Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:22 am

Hello everyone . The world of greyhawk comes to mind as my favorite game of all time is Dungeons and Dragons. Nothing better than a high level magic user getting bit by a vampire because that vampire although technically his master would become the new liches newest target. Before I dive right in with all my writings I need to figure out how to add different quotes to one response so i will try this for now.

Straga knocks on 1st floor door and goes to 2nd floor . page 1 in mod blue story tells us straga knocks on door and occupant dies within a few days. Doesn't mean a spell isn't used.

Devante admits to being mason bodyguard . Who knowingly/unknowingly is there to spring the trap on the straga would be a high enough level fighter to know the plan went awry. claim so far unopposed . Need you to strip naked , turn around slowly and show us the bottom of your feet . Looking for fang marks or wounds other than bruises.

Kong admits to getting a letter and EW and strike wolf are town aligned on day 1 . curious if 4 or 5 other members received the same note. ( suggestion spell used by Straga when he knocked on door to make Kong say this ? )

Extreme Ways wrote:I'm a weaponsmith.

The masonic axe can be used to cut the head off a lynched corpse. Because as weaponsmith you know that if the lynched victim is vampire, only the beheading cut from a weapon like the silver axe will kill it.

However, should the Masonic Axe be used this must be done in public immediate after the lynch, so the identity of the holder is revealed to all. If the holder dies, the weapon will stay in possession of a townie.


Kongs note had me thinking the 2 masons that summoned the 5 and priest .... give me the wooden stake and a heavy hammer for the vampire but a silver stake+3 should suffice for the Straga or even a headless horseman ). Why a note for the weoponsmith and whoever strikewolf is ?
I really have a lot more to say but have to keep reading over and over ...
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby jfm10 on Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:27 am

SoN!c wrote:


Keep playing Fan-Tan boys (by placing two on a board and guessing the remaining Count when divided by four), because the world is coming to an end!



placing two on a board = hint

guessing the remaining Count = hint

when divided by four = hint - 4 masons holding something that will devide scum in half when swinged properly :D

(everything that was posted D1 were hints or clues or stories)


I would strongly suggest the 4 masons should get together because it's your votes that can devide scum when swung properly
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:33 am

Welcome jfm

I'm speculating there is some kind of thief role maybe night and day which would explain loss of Devs vest and the silver bullets.
Maybe a minion to the striga.
Also in chess notation x signifies takes. ie b x q means bishop takes queen.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby jfm10 on Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:51 am

Loose Canon wrote:Welcome jfm

I'm speculating there is some kind of thief role maybe night and day which would explain loss of Devs vest and the silver bullets.
Maybe a minion to the striga.
Also in chess notation x signifies takes. ie b x q means bishop takes queen.

Devs vest took damage and the bullets well i reckon i'll be needing a whole lot more :lol:
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Extreme Ways on Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:12 am

I strongly suggest that theres no 4 known masons at this point because that would be hilariously overpowered.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Votanic on Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:04 am

jfm10 wrote:Hello everyone . The world of greyhawk comes to mind as my favorite game of all time is Dungeons and Dragons. Nothing better than a high level magic user getting bit by a vampire because that vampire although technically his master would become the new liches newest target. Before I dive right in with all my writings I need to figure out how to add different quotes to one response so i will try this for now.

Straga knocks on 1st floor door and goes to 2nd floor . page 1 in mod blue story tells us straga knocks on door and occupant dies within a few days. Doesn't mean a spell isn't used.

Devante admits to being mason bodyguard . Who knowingly/unknowingly is there to spring the trap on the straga would be a high enough level fighter to know the plan went awry. claim so far unopposed . Need you to strip naked , turn around slowly and show us the bottom of your feet . Looking for fang marks or wounds other than bruises.

Kong admits to getting a letter and EW and strike wolf are town aligned on day 1 . curious if 4 or 5 other members received the same note. ( suggestion spell used by Straga when he knocked on door to make Kong say this ? )

Extreme Ways wrote:I'm a weaponsmith.

The masonic axe can be used to cut the head off a lynched corpse. Because as weaponsmith you know that if the lynched victim is vampire, only the beheading cut from a weapon like the silver axe will kill it.

However, should the Masonic Axe be used this must be done in public immediate after the lynch, so the identity of the holder is revealed to all. If the holder dies, the weapon will stay in possession of a townie.


Kongs note had me thinking the 2 masons that summoned the 5 and priest .... give me the wooden stake and a heavy hammer for the vampire but a silver stake+3 should suffice for the Straga or even a headless horseman ). Why a note for the weoponsmith and whoever strikewolf is ?
I really have a lot more to say but have to keep reading over and over ...

Welcome jfm. This is an interesting analysis. It will be helpful to see it linked to the original quotes. ...though I'm still wary that a lot of the storyline and flavor might just turn out to be a wild goose chase.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Extreme Ways on Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:41 am

Ok so actually some reads.

I think those annoyed with the style of game are >rand town. I dont think we resolve devante, he will resolve eventually.

Strike is confirmed town to me unless kong has been taking some weird meds. I dont see any reason why w!kong would otherwise bring this into the game, so kong is also town.

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Kong
Strike
Dev (if Dev survives till endgame, dont take my word on this)
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Loose - I went for my play on Loose because he hadn't pinged me town day 1, I was missing some of the craziness. Him staying home confirms that he does still think about game mechanics in the same way he does as town.
Vot - I can't read vot ever I think.
Fusi - Still dont like the slot that much but wanting everyone to claim is I think a play designed by town fusi. I picture town fusi as wanting to be in control and wanting to reason with the fullest information possible, and instead he's getting breadcrumbs.

I have breadcrumbed some parts of my role. I am indeed in possession of one of the two masonic weapons, which I will use if possible tonight.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Devante on Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:34 am

Getting hit last night is really confusing since I purposely didn't protect anyone since I had no vibes for who was town yet. Either I got attacked by one of the scum factions or it was part of the story for the bodyguard to be by the lure. But to have a cop and bodyguard together with no choice for scum to come to seems very mod influenced and overpowered so my guess is Traf and I were targeted. But why us and not stronger players I don't know.

Just a heads up I'm away for the weekend and getting cover. Traf is covering me for games so I've asked if he can do so here too but no answer from mod yet
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby jfm10 on Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:41 am

Devante wrote:Getting hit last night is really confusing since I purposely didn't protect anyone since I had no vibes for who was town yet. Either I got attacked by one of the scum factions or it was part of the story for the bodyguard to be by the lure. But to have a cop and bodyguard together with no choice for scum to come to seems very mod influenced and overpowered so my guess is Traf and I were targeted. But why us and not stronger players I don't know.

Just a heads up I'm away for the weekend and getting cover. Traf is covering me for games so I've asked if he can do so here too but no answer from mod yet

If you are asking that Traf logs in as you and responds then that it against site rules as a sitter can only play risk turns and can only type in game who is playing for him. To log in and write in forum as another player is not allowed under site rules to the best of my knowledge.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:45 am

SoN!c wrote:


Keep playing Fan-Tan boys (by placing two on a board and guessing the remaining Count when divided by four), because the world is coming to an end!



placing two on a board = hint

guessing the remaining Count = hint

when divided by four = hint - 4 masons holding something that will devide scum in half when swinged properly :D

(everything that was posted D1 were hints or clues or stories)


from wikipedia as to fan tan game - even though I f'ing hate going back into these numbers;

Fan-Tan, or fantan (simplified Chinese: 番摊; traditional Chinese: 番攤; pinyin: fāntān; Jyutping: faan1 taan1; lit. 'repeated divisions') is a gambling game long played in China. It is a game of pure chance.

The game is played by placing two handfuls of small objects on a board and guessing the remaining count when divided by four. After players have cast bets on values of 1 through 4, the dealer or croupier repeatedly removes four objects from the board until only one, two, three or four beans remain, determining the winner.

So I don't know but 2 one scum faction 2 other scum faction placed on the board by sonic, 4 total number of scum, none removed divided by 4 with 0 removed = 1.

Also wondering if Sonic (the croupier) took the vest from Dev and the Bullets - ie no actions/no thief took these anti-vampire tolls away?

Probably doesn't help at all but posting this in case it might... ???
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Ewebasher on Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:57 am

Chinese piu-wuy or that other gambling game - "make 9"- is mandalin or cantonese..

2 masons
2 vampire faction
2 wolves
2 ?
2 rest of town
2 ?
1 other guy
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Devante on Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:16 pm

jfm10 wrote:
Devante wrote:Getting hit last night is really confusing since I purposely didn't protect anyone since I had no vibes for who was town yet. Either I got attacked by one of the scum factions or it was part of the story for the bodyguard to be by the lure. But to have a cop and bodyguard together with no choice for scum to come to seems very mod influenced and overpowered so my guess is Traf and I were targeted. But why us and not stronger players I don't know.

Just a heads up I'm away for the weekend and getting cover. Traf is covering me for games so I've asked if he can do so here too but no answer from mod yet

If you are asking that Traf logs in as you and responds then that it against site rules as a sitter can only play risk turns and can only type in game who is playing for him. To log in and write in forum as another player is not allowed under site rules to the best of my knowledge.


Didn't know that. Just worried about missing being able to vote but then it'll be what it is unless there's a vote before I leave then
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Extreme Ways on Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:13 pm

Devante wrote:
jfm10 wrote:
Devante wrote:Getting hit last night is really confusing since I purposely didn't protect anyone since I had no vibes for who was town yet. Either I got attacked by one of the scum factions or it was part of the story for the bodyguard to be by the lure. But to have a cop and bodyguard together with no choice for scum to come to seems very mod influenced and overpowered so my guess is Traf and I were targeted. But why us and not stronger players I don't know.

Just a heads up I'm away for the weekend and getting cover. Traf is covering me for games so I've asked if he can do so here too but no answer from mod yet

If you are asking that Traf logs in as you and responds then that it against site rules as a sitter can only play risk turns and can only type in game who is playing for him. To log in and write in forum as another player is not allowed under site rules to the best of my knowledge.


Didn't know that. Just worried about missing being able to vote but then it'll be what it is unless there's a vote before I leave then

Also bad practice to have a dead townie influence your play - they are dead for a reason
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Extreme Ways on Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:14 pm

Ewebasher wrote:Chinese piu-wuy or that other gambling game - "make 9"- is mandalin or cantonese..

2 masons
2 vampire faction
2 wolves
2 ?
2 rest of town
2 ?
1 other guy

what if it's 2 groups of masons
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Votanic on Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:57 pm

Divided by 4?
That made me think of the players divided into four teams.
What if there are not only two separate Scum factions,...but also two separate Town factions! ...each with a pair of masons.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Charle on Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:13 am

Extreme Ways wrote:
Ewebasher wrote:Chinese piu-wuy or that other gambling game - "make 9"- is mandalin or cantonese..

2 masons
2 vampire faction
2 wolves
2 ?
2 rest of town
2 ?
1 other guy

what if it's 2 groups of masons


The 1 other guy is probably a replacement for the masons .... don't you think it will be an overkill if there are two groups of masons?

Anyway, I was a bit busy at work lately, going to read through all the flavour again and maybe post later again.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby jfm10 on Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:31 am

Charle wrote:
Extreme Ways wrote:
Ewebasher wrote:Chinese piu-wuy or that other gambling game - "make 9"- is mandalin or cantonese..

2 masons
2 vampire faction
2 wolves
2 ?
2 rest of town
2 ?
1 other guy

what if it's 2 groups of masons


The 1 other guy is probably a replacement for the masons .... don't you think it will be an overkill if there are two groups of masons?

Anyway, I was a bit busy at work lately, going to read through all the flavour again and maybe post later again.


2 bodyguards (masons) and 2 cops Traf and someone is my guess
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Votanic on Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:39 am

jfm10 wrote:
Charle wrote:
Extreme Ways wrote:
Ewebasher wrote:Chinese piu-wuy or that other gambling game - "make 9"- is mandalin or cantonese..

2 masons
2 vampire faction
2 wolves
2 ?
2 rest of town
2 ?
1 other guy

what if it's 2 groups of masons


The 1 other guy is probably a replacement for the masons .... don't you think it will be an overkill if there are two groups of masons?

Anyway, I was a bit busy at work lately, going to read through all the flavour again and maybe post later again.


2 bodyguards (masons) and 2 cops Traf and someone is my guess

I know this a big 'ask', but could everyone quote more about where they are getting all of this.
A few points to consider.
• Everyone supposedly has multiple PRs so there could be more overlap than this FanTan scheme suggests.
• Are the other scum really wolves? Night 1 suggests there are more vampires/strigas?
• There is supposedly a special player, The Striga (or any striga?) needs to find. The is could be the 'Other Guy', and it may be a special, specific role, ...but it also could just be any player with any random PRs.
And, the special striga-target might not even know he is the special target!
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Extreme Ways on Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:32 pm

Votanic wrote:
jfm10 wrote:
Charle wrote:
Extreme Ways wrote:
Ewebasher wrote:Chinese piu-wuy or that other gambling game - "make 9"- is mandalin or cantonese..

2 masons
2 vampire faction
2 wolves
2 ?
2 rest of town
2 ?
1 other guy

what if it's 2 groups of masons


The 1 other guy is probably a replacement for the masons .... don't you think it will be an overkill if there are two groups of masons?

Anyway, I was a bit busy at work lately, going to read through all the flavour again and maybe post later again.


2 bodyguards (masons) and 2 cops Traf and someone is my guess

I know this a big 'ask', but could everyone quote more about where they are getting all of this.
A few points to consider.
• Everyone supposedly has multiple PRs so there could be more overlap than this FanTan scheme suggests.
• Are the other scum really wolves? Night 1 suggests there are more vampires/strigas?
• There is supposedly a special player, The Striga (or any striga?) needs to find. The is could be the 'Other Guy', and it may be a special, specific role, ...but it also could just be any player with any random PRs.
And, the special striga-target might not even know he is the special target!

I am getting mine from the fact that there are apparently 4 masons. These 4 masons cant all know each other, unless some are backups. Imagine playing a game with 13 people where 4 people can act as one using their daychat.

If it's not backups, it's 2x2.

The striga might be "the other guy" or might be a "lost wolf" - a wolf who doesnt know who his packmates are.

What we are calling the scum factions I dont really care for.
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