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Vacation and Abandoned SubForums

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:29 pm
by The Fuzzy Pengui
I was browsing through the Main Foundry Forum to see what had recently been done, and I noticed something I haven't before.

About 1/2 of the first page of posts are either abandoned or on vacation.

I think that it would go a long way in keeping the foundry a clean or tidy place by moving threads that are officially marked abandoned or vacation to their own subforums so the main floor can be used just for active maps.

What are your opinions?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:38 pm
by fireedud
I think it should just be for abandoned maps, not for vacation maps.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:44 pm
by gimil
fireedud wrote:I think it should just be for abandoned maps, not for vacation maps.


Could you explain why?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:07 pm
by tenio
also there should be a section for quenched maps

So we have

    Ideas
    Foundry
    Forge
    Quench

and abandoned / vacation

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:35 pm
by gimil
tenio wrote:also there should be a section for quenched maps

So we have

    Ideas
    Foundry
    Forge
    Quench
and abandoned / vacation


Theres no need to split quench/FF since there are seperated by stickies :)

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:46 pm
by fireedud
gimil wrote:
fireedud wrote:I think it should just be for abandoned maps, not for vacation maps.


Could you explain why?



If a map is on vacation, there is a chance it may come back to life, if it's abandoned, there's not a chance in hell that it'll come back.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:38 pm
by gimil
fireedud wrote:
gimil wrote:
fireedud wrote:I think it should just be for abandoned maps, not for vacation maps.


Could you explain why?



If a map is on vacation, there is a chance it may come back to life, if it's abandoned, there's not a chance in hell that it'll come back.


Wrong,

A vacation map has had the map making claiming he WILL return, an abandoned map has either been left unatteneded for a reasonable amound of time or stated that the map maker no longer intends to carry out the project.

But both vacation and abandoned maps ahve every chance of making a comeback.:)

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:27 pm
by Herakilla
gimil wrote:
fireedud wrote:
gimil wrote:
fireedud wrote:I think it should just be for abandoned maps, not for vacation maps.


Could you explain why?



If a map is on vacation, there is a chance it may come back to life, if it's abandoned, there's not a chance in hell that it'll come back.


Wrong,

A vacation map has had the map making claiming he WILL return, an abandoned map has either been left unatteneded for a reasonable amound of time or stated that the map maker no longer intends to carry out the project.

But both vacation and abandoned maps ahve every chance of making a comeback.:)


also arent abandoned maps up for grabs by anyone who wants to carry the idea out? and vacation means the idea is still in use right?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:30 pm
by gimil
Herakilla wrote:
gimil wrote:
fireedud wrote:
gimil wrote:
fireedud wrote:I think it should just be for abandoned maps, not for vacation maps.


Could you explain why?



If a map is on vacation, there is a chance it may come back to life, if it's abandoned, there's not a chance in hell that it'll come back.


Wrong,

A vacation map has had the map making claiming he WILL return, an abandoned map has either been left unatteneded for a reasonable amound of time or stated that the map maker no longer intends to carry out the project.

But both vacation and abandoned maps ahve every chance of making a comeback.:)


also arent abandoned maps up for grabs by anyone who wants to carry the idea out? and vacation means the idea is still in use right?


good point hera, also note that its always common courtisy (sp?) to ask before taking an idea.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:39 pm
by yeti_c
I don't think there's any need for this.

C.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:42 pm
by gimil
yeti_c wrote:I don't think there's any need for this.

C.


are to explain why? If you could be so kind :)

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:46 pm
by yeti_c
Certainly...

a) Vacationed maps - will (if not necro'd) fall to the bottom.
b) Abandoned maps - will (if not necro'd) fall to the bottom.
c) Quenched forum - unnecessary as the FF maps are stickied.

If you're going to do anything - then lock the abandoned/vacationed maps - then no-one can necro them...

With a note saying - if you want this unlocked please PM a Carto and it will be...

C.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:50 pm
by DiM
yeti_c wrote:Certainly...

a) Vacationed maps - will (if not necro'd) fall to the bottom.
b) Abandoned maps - will (if not necro'd) fall to the bottom.
c) Quenched forum - unnecessary as the FF maps are stickied.

If you're going to do anything - then lock the abandoned/vacationed maps - then no-one can necro them...

With a note saying - if you want this unlocked please PM a Carto and it will be...

C.


qft. i totally agree with yeti on this one.

especially on the locking part. gimil, remember i pmed you some time ago to lock all vacation and abandoned maps? in that pm you also said you're working on something that was supposed to be released on monday. well now it's friday and i still can't see it. :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:05 pm
by gimil
DiM wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Certainly...

a) Vacationed maps - will (if not necro'd) fall to the bottom.
b) Abandoned maps - will (if not necro'd) fall to the bottom.
c) Quenched forum - unnecessary as the FF maps are stickied.

If you're going to do anything - then lock the abandoned/vacationed maps - then no-one can necro them...

With a note saying - if you want this unlocked please PM a Carto and it will be...

C.


qft. i totally agree with yeti on this one.

especially on the locking part. gimil, remember i pmed you some time ago to lock all vacation and abandoned maps? in that pm you also said you're working on something that was supposed to be released on monday. well now it's friday and i still can't see it. :wink:


Well I ran into complications and time constraints so forgive me for not working by what I told you in private.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:10 pm
by DiM
gimil wrote:
DiM wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Certainly...

a) Vacationed maps - will (if not necro'd) fall to the bottom.
b) Abandoned maps - will (if not necro'd) fall to the bottom.
c) Quenched forum - unnecessary as the FF maps are stickied.

If you're going to do anything - then lock the abandoned/vacationed maps - then no-one can necro them...

With a note saying - if you want this unlocked please PM a Carto and it will be...

C.


qft. i totally agree with yeti on this one.

especially on the locking part. gimil, remember i pmed you some time ago to lock all vacation and abandoned maps? in that pm you also said you're working on something that was supposed to be released on monday. well now it's friday and i still can't see it. :wink:


Well I ran into complications and time constraints so forgive me for not working by what I told you in private.


hey you're not paid to be lazy and do nothing. oh wait you're not paid... carry on. :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:01 pm
by The Fuzzy Pengui
yeti_c wrote:c) Quenched forum - unnecessary as the FF maps are stickied.

I don't agree with this either, that's why I didn't include it in my poll or post :D

But even tho the others "should" fall to the bottom, they still appear in the main forum which (I believe) should be reserved for active maps only.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:36 pm
by Kaplowitz
gimil wrote:
DiM wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Certainly...

a) Vacationed maps - will (if not necro'd) fall to the bottom.
b) Abandoned maps - will (if not necro'd) fall to the bottom.
c) Quenched forum - unnecessary as the FF maps are stickied.

If you're going to do anything - then lock the abandoned/vacationed maps - then no-one can necro them...

With a note saying - if you want this unlocked please PM a Carto and it will be...

C.


qft. i totally agree with yeti on this one.

especially on the locking part. gimil, remember i pmed you some time ago to lock all vacation and abandoned maps? in that pm you also said you're working on something that was supposed to be released on monday. well now it's friday and i still can't see it. :wink:


Well I ran into complications and time constraints so forgive me for not working by what I told you in private.


This is a terrible idea. There should be a vacation/dead map sub forum. If you lock every thread, then it will be much harder for people to come back, or for people to take the idea. With a subforum- it will be easy to search through previous work on a similar map, or find an idea for a map.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:39 pm
by yeti_c
OK then - perhaps the best idea is to just delete posts that necro old threads.

C.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:19 pm
by DiM
yeti_c wrote:OK then - perhaps the best idea is to just delete posts that necro old threads.

C.


nope. lock them and post that he who wants the thread unlocked must pm a carto.

no point in deleting posts every time a mad man decides to necro something.

Map Abandoned Forum

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:49 pm
by Sir. Ricco
Maybe to help keep this Map Area cleaned up, the mods should put an abandoned forum in here, like in the Tournament Area. Any maps that are abandoned or any maps that do not have any comments since a month.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:07 pm
by DiM
the abandoned maps simply fall to the bottom. i think we don't need another subforum but we do need to lock all the maps that are abandoned to avoid necrobumping

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:17 pm
by gimil
DiM wrote:the abandoned maps simply fall to the bottom. i think we don't need another subforum but we do need to lock all the maps that are abandoned to avoid necrobumping


But moving abandoned/vacation maps to there own sub forum means the community can have more of a focus and find it easier to identify active maps.

P.s. theres already a thread about this so im going to merge it.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:33 pm
by yeti_c
gimil wrote:
DiM wrote:the abandoned maps simply fall to the bottom. i think we don't need another subforum but we do need to lock all the maps that are abandoned to avoid necrobumping


But moving abandoned/vacation maps to there own sub forum means the community can have more of a focus and find it easier to identify active maps.

P.s. theres already a thread about this so im going to merge it.


Still think that it's immaterial. (See DiM's post)

C.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:58 pm
by MrBenn
It can only be good for the Foundry to have only active maps in the Main Foundry...

How frequently does the Developmental Atlas get updated? That's got to be equally as important, as is the Maps In Development thread in GD...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:43 pm
by oaktown
MrBenn wrote:It can only be good for the Foundry to have only active maps in the Main Foundry...

I disagree - if a mapmaker wants to put his/her map on vacation, they should be able to pick it back up whenever they want to rather than relying on a CA to move it back. And dead maps wouldn't be a problem if folks didn't insist on bumping them 14 months after they've been abandoned! :roll:

regardless, we're going to be more pro-active about putting abandoned and vacation tags on inactive threads. Hopefully that helps.

MrBenn wrote:How frequently does the Developmental Atlas get updated? That's got to be equally as important, as is the Maps In Development thread in GD...

Yeah, it's been pretty much useless since i joined in 2006... it's due for an overhaul, and may be getting one.